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Originally Posted by Stabbey
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The first movie in the recent trilogy was alright. The second one was basically one long feminism and diversity propaganda showcase. It was quite surreal actually. The third one I haven’t watched because of how poor a craftsmanship the second one was, so can’t comment on it.


I just saw "bad plot" and "bad storytelling" in the first two movies of the new Star Wars trilogy. (I haven't yet seen the third because of the aforementioned "bad plot" and "bad storytelling" present in the first two).

It's perfectly all right to dislike the new Star Wars trilogy. I dislike them because the writing is really bad and the plot is nonsensical. However, if all a person can see about those movies is "one long feminism and diversity propaganda showcase", that sounds very much like the words of someone who resents seeing women or people of colour getting the spotlight focus instead of white men specifically because they are not white men.


Those movies? As said I think the first one was alright. As far as I remember it had a female and a black man in the leads. Please think at least for a moment before commenting. The second movie on the other hand was simply ridiculous in its preachines. End of story. And yes I agree, it was also just a poor movie in general.

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Originally Posted by Stabbey
Originally Posted by Exclusif
The first movie in the recent trilogy was alright. The second one was basically one long feminism and diversity propaganda showcase. It was quite surreal actually. The third one I haven’t watched because of how poor a craftsmanship the second one was, so can’t comment on it.


I just saw "bad plot" and "bad storytelling" in the first two movies of the new Star Wars trilogy. (I haven't yet seen the third because of the aforementioned "bad plot" and "bad storytelling" present in the first two).

It's perfectly all right to dislike the new Star Wars trilogy. I dislike them because the writing is really bad and the plot is nonsensical. However, if all a person can see about those movies is "one long feminism and diversity propaganda showcase", that sounds very much like the words of someone who resents seeing women or people of colour getting the spotlight focus instead of white men specifically because they are not white men.

Well, if anything, those films completely derailred what they wanted to do with inclusion. Finn after the first film became the "black sidekick", a comic relief that just follows Rey like a lapdog.
Rey is simply ridiculous. There has been a lot of leaks regarding studio interference for her to appeal to woke audiences by making her step on the face of stablished characters (Luke) and pretty much all male characters. Her godlike aspects were a demand from Kathleen Kennedy, the original character was supposed to be a padawan like Luke was in the second trilogy.

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Originally Posted by StrikerofStars

...Please, keep politics out of the game? Most of us are tired of people trying to force crazy ideologies down our throats at every single opportunity, or rich corporations trying to signal virtue by propagandizing the evils of capitalism and the wonders of socialism...

It is bad enough that Star Wars and half the others franchises around got destroyed by Socialjusticewarriorism. Remember: go woke, go broke...


No. Next.

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Oh don't get me wrong, I'm a libertarian (although all the "gender" terms are not scientific and thus are meaningless according to Biology). The point is, do not retcon established franchises to put a "woke" agenda.
If writers create feminist, gay, bissexual characters organically, i.e, it is imperative that they have those traits, then great. But do not make Lando be "gay" for droids. It is retarded.


Libertarian eh? That's another word for "fascist".

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Fast approaching the fulfillment of Godwin's law. grin

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>libertarians are fascists
my dude, i dont like libertarians, but holy shit my dude.
Hahahahaha
What are you doing?

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I think it is better to keep the current politics of the real world out of a games/movies and other art products,
before someone very loud in TV gets offended, by a binary cis-gender-phobic-white-man,
or by anyone who forgets to pretend, that any of this makes sense.


Unless it is done well, but it is very hard to do propaganda well...



I think this should be moved to an other topic, and not left at BG 3 forum, this whole topic just brings "bad luck"...

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Originally Posted by Minsc1122
I think this should be moved to an other topic, and not left at BG 3 forum, this whole topic just brings "bad luck"...

That is the plan, at least in more general terms.


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Originally Posted by vometia
Originally Posted by Minsc1122
I think this should be moved to an other topic, and not left at BG 3 forum, this whole topic just brings "bad luck"...

That is the plan, at least in more general terms.


So are you hinting at a new and improved forums is waiting for BG3 to hit Early release? (One can hope) smile

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Originally Posted by Nobody_Special
So are you hinting at a new and improved forums is waiting for BG3 to hit Early release? (One can hope) smile

Haha, if only! I mean the idea is somewhere on the agenda but other than it being planned I have no further information other than "probably not imminently". Just a small reorg of what we have at present, hopefully.


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Originally Posted by vometia
Originally Posted by Nobody_Special
So are you hinting at a new and improved forums is waiting for BG3 to hit Early release? (One can hope) smile

Haha, if only! I mean the idea is somewhere on the agenda but other than it being planned I have no further information other than "probably not imminently". Just a small reorg of what we have at present, hopefully.

ugh, i pity the committee process you have to go through. i know it all too well; my career is in bureaucracy.

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