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As this thread was essentially the same as the "Monster Playable Races" thread I have merged them both and changed the thread title.

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But Sadurian now it looks like I'm a double poster D:


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But Sadurian now it looks like I'm a double poster D:
I imagine that Larian could arrange counselling should you require it.

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You should be careful with blanket promises like that, I happen to have a very deep and troubling well of issues I need counselling for!


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Gobs straight up eat people if I recall, pretty sure it was mentioned in the game. I'd rather shoot for a Kobold playable race.

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I would definitely like a chance to run a bugbear as lead character!


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Originally Posted by Dexai
Remove humans? Why would you want to remove the most interesting race?


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Definitely interested in playing the goblinoids!
Several other monster races as well.

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Goblins already have models, so I would think they could be implemented pretty quick.
No, not in an immersive and believable way. You would have to change most dialogues, many quests (tieflings not letting you in at all...) etc.

Dream on, dreamers. I would be pleasantly surprised if even the non-mainstream races present in PHB are implemented well in this regard (except Drow maybe - fan service and thus money dictates Drow must be handled well).


While I personally think it's unlikely we see goblinoid playable characters I'm going to hard disagree with your assessment here. There are many interesting and creative ways to get around the stigma of a racial choice. Persuasion checks, Disguise Self, Charm Person. Letting other party members take point during certain interactions.

And all of these would require even more changes to dialogue or additional dialogue.

You understand that's part and parcel of game development and this type of game? It's all dialogue trees...This already exists with humans, dwarves, elves, drow...

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And more races means... more work.


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Originally Posted by Dexai
And more races means... more work.


Almost as if the game is still in development and they're already planning on adding more races....
Nothing wrong with people saying which races they would want added.

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Originally Posted by Dexai
Remove humans? Why would you want to remove the most interesting race?
Says the guy with a Kuo-toa as an avatar.

What's interesting about humans?

Originally Posted by Dexai
And more races means... more work.
I'm the only one here suggesting fewer races. Do I get any credit for that? :P

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Agreed even though I do think that we probably will not get the Yuan-ti pureblood as a playable race there is nothing wrong with talking about races we would like to see in the base game or in a DLC this is a suggestion forum after all


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Originally Posted by Ayvah
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Remove humans? Why would you want to remove the most interesting race?
Says the guy with a Kuo-toa as an avatar.

What's interesting about humans?
I do find them to be a bit boring but I still think it would be a bad idea to remove Humans from BG3 as a playable race


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Oh I agree. It would be hard to make a Baldur's Gate game without humans. The lore is already very human-centric. They still suck though. :P

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Originally Posted by RatPackGamer
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And more races means... more work.


Almost as if the game is still in development and they're already planning on adding more races....
Nothing wrong with people saying which races they would want added.

I think you need to go back and read the context of our discussion because nobody ever said there was

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Remove humans? Why would you want to remove the most interesting race?
Says the guy with a Kuo-toa as an avatar.

What's interesting about humans?

There's literally nothing more interesting than humans


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Originally Posted by Dexai
There's literally nothing more interesting than humans
Hotfix #3 notes.
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Before the fixes, let’s share something you’ve created yourselves (this is your own fault) through your choices in character creation. We took the most popular choices in character creation, and recreated this. We thought our analytics system wasn’t working! We checked. It is.

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Congratulations, you’ve basically made the default Vault Dweller. What the hell guys. We gave you demon eyes, horns, and even tails. We are sorely disappointed. Go crazy. We worked hard on this!
"Interesting" is definitely not the word I would use.

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Well, that's a shame.


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Originally Posted by Dexai
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And more races means... more work.


Almost as if the game is still in development and they're already planning on adding more races....
Nothing wrong with people saying which races they would want added.

I think you need to go back and read the context of our discussion because nobody ever said there was

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Remove humans? Why would you want to remove the most interesting race?
Says the guy with a Kuo-toa as an avatar.

What's interesting about humans?

There's literally nothing more interesting than humans

Respectfully, I re-read it and stand by my statement as there is nothing inherently wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with people saying which races they'd like to see in the game. (And I didn't think you were saying otherwise.)



You made the assertion it would cause more work. Tone can be hard to convey over text but given the context of your previous posts, I read this as you implying more work would be a bad thing. Therefore I felt it acceptable first* to assert the game is still being worked on, then added the assertion that it's ok for people to ask for the races they would like to see.

I imagine if Larian is paying attention to the forums and enough people are asking for specific races, they might find it worth considering putting in the work. Especially, as previously mentioned, since the game is currently in development. (The first point of my post you quoted which you didn't address in your response)

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Originally Posted by Dexai
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Remove humans? Why would you want to remove the most interesting race?
Says the guy with a Kuo-toa as an avatar.

What's interesting about humans?
There's literally nothing more interesting than humans
I cant quite agree with humans being anyhow interesting ...
But i totally agree with "why would you want to remove" ... i just replace the rest with word "anything". O_o

I cant find the original post that Dexai was reacting to ... partialy bcs im too lazy to search for it harder.
But i cant imagine why or how would any race get in the way to anyone who dont want to play it, just dont ... problem solved. laugh


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I personally think humans are more interesting than the exotic races, because storewise because you can do a lot with them. And if you make an interesting character from humble/basic beginnings, it feels more rewarding to me. It puts an emphasis on the character's story and development, as well as their development. Most of the time with exotic races, they feel like a crutch for writing, to make them seem special and awesome while without the exotic race bit, they would be dull and uninteresting. The exotic race is their gimmick/identity.

I do think special races can be interesting, as long as they are special and rare. Tieflings would be a good example, they can be interesting and fun but feel less special when you have an entire camp of them. It suddenly makes them common which defeats the purpose of having a special/rare/exotic race in the first place (while they should be storewise). To make these races work it requires a bit more finesse and effort, which is often lacking with these characters to not make them either a meme or gimmick. A shame, that.

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Originally Posted by Kou The Mad
What all races were in the tome of foes?
Just the gith subraces and the eladrin subrace for elves. Season-based, interesting eladrin. Not "we're MORE ELFY ELVES!" Eladrin.

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