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Originally Posted by Verte
Honestly, with the amount of shady companions, each (well, except for Wyll) can 'backstab' us at some point. I remember Ignus...

As long as it creates a great storytelling I am all for it ^^ We can only guess what will the conclussion to each character be... on our individual playthroughs laugh
I'll just pray Gale doesn't blow up while dreaming about Mystra.


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Originally Posted by Vamathi

As long as it creates a great storytelling I am all for it ^^ We can only guess what will the conclussion to each character be... on our individual playthroughs laugh
I'll just pray Gale doesn't blow up while dreaming about Mystra.


This or I will blow up after giving him one more artifact. Even Astarion is less thirsty.

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Romance is fundamental to DnD. I mean, how else would you meet your wife? Wonder how many of us met our partner over a set of hot dice wink I love the option to get close to someone and add a bit more gritty adult stuff. Just makes the adventure that bit more interesting. Shadowheart? You hearing this? Babe? Hello....

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Originally Posted by Arideya
To be honest I'm hoping Gale is not Chosen of Mystra or ex-Chosen... that kind of goes against established lore and he should be way more powerful than he is.


I'm not terribly proficient in Realms lore, but Gale's backstory does seem more - I dunno, extreme? - than the others. Lover and Chosen of a god must be a much rarer thing to achieve than "vampire spawn", "folk hero", "random githyanki" (is Lae'zel special at all?) and... whatever Shadowheart is. Also, how the heck is our PC supposed to compete with Mystra. Yeesh.

Gale and Shadowheart seem to have the most well-developed romance tracks so far. Once Wyll's gets unbugged, maybe it'll be up there too. I'd like to see more content for Astarion and Lae'zel but I'm not sure if that's even in the works. And I definitely hope we'll get more of this stuff in Act II and III; Original Sin 2 kind of dropped the ball there, IIRC (and I may be remembering entirely wrong, I basically only romanced Ifan).

As far as shady companions go, I think the top spot in this game will go to

the suspicious-looking rodent riding a ranger mount. Far too charming, and talk about unbelievable backstories! Gonna keep my eyes on those two.

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I think Lae'zel might be more than she's told us. She talks to that githyanki knight like she's higher than he is unless we intervene...then they attack us, but that's not the point. Shadowheart is either some chosen of Shar, or perhaps a Selunite priestess who's been captured and mindwiped by sharans..hmm? probably the former. Gale's story seems.... um, ok-ish. as long as they keep giving us mediochre blue items to feed him. If I have to start giving him my good items he's getting dumped.

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Originally Posted by Tzelanit
I like the romances as they're done now and don't really need them expanded out.
I'd rather see resources put into even more regular interactions and conversations with my companions that comment on what's going on in the moment than play a mini-game where I have to say the right thing to get the approval of a pile of pixels with the hopes that I get an awkward cutscene of plastic bodies tangled together like I'm at the Twister National Championships for Action Figures.


Err, twister national olympics can happen regardless of romance. laugh

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@Vamathi ... please forgive me if I don't massively quote and respond to every point like I did before, a bit too tired for it right now, but overall, I agree, Astarion is a manipulator. All our current companions are, minus Wyll I'd say.

And yes, unpopular opinion, but I find Shadowheart to be quite manipulative too, not on the lvl Astarion is, but she's close enough. Anyhow, after Anders from DA2 and Solas from DAI, I'm hella paranoid of all possible romance options in games. And with popularity of GoT (like I mentioned in previous thread), I really think we're in for some interesting plot twists. Not necessarily regarding Astarion, but the other companions, especially Shadowheart, are on my radar... and Gale. I've come across this entertaining conspiracy theory on reddit about Gale being truly evil. It's an interesting read for sure: https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/jlu5yh/ruminations_whats_your_crazy_theory/


Now that was an EXTREMELY interesting thread.

... I feel like I actually like Gale better now - who does not enjoy a little depth and plot! Still not romancing any of the options though. I really feel like NONE of the available characters suit my ranger lady, even a tiny bit. <.<

Regarding romances, I have an anecdote I'd like to share;
during my first playthrough, I didn't romance anybody (like mentioned above). When we had the celebration at the camp after saving the refugees, Astarion wanted to talk to me (as you all know here, sleep with me) - I told him no and went to check in with all other companions. ALL of them acted as if I had said yes to Astarion. Wyll wanted to toast for us, Gale told him Astarion was a lucky man, Laz snorted at me that my actions had made her run hot, but that I already missed a chance with her cause I promised my body to Astarion, and finally Shadowheart was just being... Shadowheart. And I was just left there being very confused. XD This must have been a flag-bug though, I had a friend experiencing the same - but another friend also tried going non-romance, after hearing of our experience, and he didn't suffer the same issue. Did this happen to anyone else who didn't care for a romance run yet?


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If you really want to know if your companions are hiding something from you, look at this:


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Aww, all of the #1 options are so sweet (except Lae'zel - no sweetness allowed!). But of course they exist to give you such options when you play as an origin character - whether the characters have similar desires "on their own", so to speak, is up in the air. Hopefully Larian can manage to work it all in.

But good Lathander, Gale.
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What's next? Gonna start aiming for Ao's job?

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Jumping in here. I REALLY wish there was some way to prioritize interactions with the companions you want. I find despite being "high" attitude with Astarion and only medium with Shadowheart and neutral with Lae'zel, the game still prioritizes their interactions. I literally have to knock both of them out before any of the Illithid dream sequences if I want to get the Astarion interactions. Don't get me wrong. I love Shadowheart and plan on romancing her, just not with that particular character. But I find I need to use her or Lae'zel a lot because otherwise my party is just too squishy. *sighs* Please, please, please allow us to have some way to prioritize interactions with the characters we want.

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Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
Aww, all of the #1 options are so sweet (except Lae'zel - no sweetness allowed!). But of course they exist to give you such options when you play as an origin character - whether the characters have similar desires "on their own", so to speak, is up in the air. Hopefully Larian can manage to work it all in.

But good Lathander, Gale.
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What's next? Gonna start aiming for Ao's job?


The options are all things hinted at by the game for those characters as companions.

I mean, Shadowheart's personal quest is literally called Chosen of Shar.

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Originally Posted by xarallei
I find despite being "high" attitude with Astarion and only medium with Shadowheart and neutral with Lae'zel, the game still prioritizes their interactions.


Yeah, I was amazed at all the new interactions I got with Astarion when I did a Lone Wolf run (I recruited Gale too but he stayed in camp permanently).

I also dislike that so many meaningful interactions are gated behind abusing the tadpole. Though that does make it more tempting.

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I fully agree that certain companion scenes overrides others and made a thread about that not too long ago. I'd wish that instead of overriding, we'd be able to get all the reactions/scenes/longer conversations at camp with ALL party members, regardless of who else is in the party.

I love Shadowheart too, she's one of my favorites so far, but I noticed that the game kind of seems to favor her a lot. Afaik, she's the only companion who will show up in the Grove if you miss her at the beginning, and her solo banter of "hmmm there must be a way to open this thing" as she struggles with her box is impossible to avoid when you run around in that area. She's also the only one who, if you ignore her in the Grove, seeks you out at camp where you get yet another chance to recruit her, even if you try to avoid it.

When I did my first playthrough, I always had her in my party and I always got her reactions to things as opposed to other party members, and her scenes in camp were mostly prioritized with the "!" above her head (after the fourth dream, after Lae'zel attacks you etc.). I've done a playthrough without her and finally get to see more of other companions, though Lae'zel is prone to this as well, I think.

It's a bit frustrating to miss out on content from all the others just because I have SH in the party. And, like xarallei said, I also kind of need her or Lae'zel because I'm playing as a Warlock. Not only that, but I'm interested in her story, so I don't want to have to drop her and avoid her just because she hogs most of the scenes. Hopefully this will be addressed at some point.

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Originally Posted by Tarlonniel
..."random githyanki" (is Lae'zel special at all?) and...

Originally Posted by FaultyValve
I think Lae'zel might be more than she's told us. She talks to that githyanki knight like she's higher than he is unless we intervene...then they attack us, but that's not the point...


I picked up on that too, I've begun to wonder if her constantly referencing Vlaakith as the mother to all Githyanki is more than metaphorical for her.

Originally Posted by Vamathi
If you really want to know if your companions are hiding something from you, look at this:

Looking at this I find it especially telling that Lae'zel is the only character that doesn't get an option that deals with her past.

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