Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - General Lots of patch3 updates today - New content soon?

Kinda agreed with both of you. The time to act is now, but rushing without proper consideration (analyzing massive amounts of feedback) would do more harm than good. If we see no sign of major changes within a month or so, it'll be time to be worried. I personally think a year will not be enough - and it's not like they promised any specific date. Tbh from what I've seen, it'd be good for the game if it was closer to two years in EA. It needs work if it's to reach its potential and not just be "good enough".

On the topic of



implementing those not-quite-ready features could be a major thing, too. One of those is "whole party takes part in conversations", one of the most requested "smaller" features. There's probably a lot of those we don't know about, and I suspect several may be quite substantial, not just UI tweaks and minor QoL features.

Wait, why would they try to fix all of the bugs before implementing changes based on feedback? Changes to balance, gameplay and story might end up causing more bugs or causing issues with any fixes they would have worked on and implemented.

Maybe I'm wrong, but to me it makes more sense to implement any larger changes based on feedback, get more feedback on changes, tweak things and then worry about bug fixing and polishing.

This is the kind of curveball you throw here
So - Larian said that they are building systems, based on that system they are building the game - do you remember how they first introduced an initiative system? your whole team goes then the whole enemy team goes - or another way around based on an initiative.
It turns out that didn't quite work - so they changed it because the system allows them to do that.

So - if they fix bugs in the system - they could adjust the game however they like.

In this instance fixing the immediate bugs and issues makes much more sense. Aside from everything else, you'll be getting skewed data if players are running into bugs that aren't getting fixed. The longer those stay in the game, the less relevant the data they're getting from players with regards to death/gold/weapons is. Plus the more immediate crash/stability fixes added, the more players are able to get into the game and spend more time playing it. More players = more data and insights, which is also good.

Immediate fixes first, get it stable and working, particularly on PC, as there's usually a variety of different configurations players have - stuff you can't usually test in-house (or not to that kind of level)


Also, bigger system changes take time to put in. They've got a few weeks of insights now to work with, they'll need to analyse that, change things, test things internally, make sure everything's balanced as much as possible before getting things out. That kind of stuff takes time. It's not something you can throw out in a week.

Ya, pretty sure companies have done this before, instead of fixing stuff they bring out more content and 10 times more bugs so the game is in worse shape than before...right, sounds like a plan.

Exactly, 10 times more bugs. So it makes more sense to get rid of all of the bugs, then add them in making all the previous work pointless?

Look at any live service game. Fallout 76 for instance keeps fixing the same bugs because their updates and content releases reintroduce them back into the game. The difference is this game doesn't need to fix something like a dupe glitch a hundred times, they could add in all of the content and fix it later. Unless it's game breaking, it makes no sense to keep fixing the same issues.

Tweeking the interior trim before fixing the cracked camshaft

Sounds like my experience with mmo games. ;>

That much I understand, but I'm talking about the idea that fixing all of the bugs before bothering to implement changes. If it's immediate or an easy and quick fix, then it makes sense to have a lot of hot fixes.

I'm curious how bad issues are for a lot of people. I had quite a few CTD, but it's already as stable as any Bethesda day 1 launch for instance. Skyrim, Fallout 3 and Fallout 76 were crapshows at launch, but it didn't stop tons of people from playing.

You don't need to bug test to know that their environmental effects are broken for instance and need dramatic changes as has been voiced around here. I can trivialize any encounter by carrying a few barrels on the characters and inflicting constant damage and knockdown on enemies for instance.

I do get that major changes take time, I'm not suggesting they should have major content releases every week (it's not possible) I'm simply asking why it's suggested that the game be close to bug free before doing these changes.

As to the fixing bugs to have more players and play time? I stopped playing a couple weeks ago because I got bored with the content there. They can fix every bug in the game, but it won't get me or anyone else in my position to play the EA again until some new content and changes are made.

I wouldn't say fix all the bugs, but ya fixing stuff is important. Generally needs to be a balance so the game actually works as intended.



Ya, I was a mmo junky as a teen/young adult

We demand more sexy empty containers.

I'm at 450 so....


I hope:
1) the patch comes soon
2) there are major bug fixes and some new content (a class/race)

And the only reason I hope for the above it so all the entitled whiners can STFU on this being just a money grab, Larian not listening to customers, etc.

Sounds like a plan

There's a part of me that wants to see what a sexy empty container looks like and another is still scarred by the results that google image search for 'sexy wheel of cheese'.

Anyway, I'm finding that this website is able to answer most my questions about the patch: https://magic-8ball.com/

LoL!

Community update #11: New Minthara sex positions

You better not fail me 8ball!


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The only thing I want from community updates is Sven Wince being goofy in his armor.