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I would love if you could negotiate mid combat like weakening enemies using a spell and negotiate with the leaders or enemies by threatening or blackmailing them or if all the enemies are unconscious through sleep or something you could have a chance to exit combat or turn based and leave since everyone is a sleep there is nothing they can do for a set time so you could get past them or run away. This would be a good method or using charisma in the middle of combat to convince an enemy to surrender or a good way to exit combat without risking too many resources, I know that restocking isn't a problem but ending with a conversation when you appear to have an advantage is an interesting idea, also leaving combat while people are incapacitated is a good idea because they won't be able to fight for awhile anyway.

+1 to this.

I've posted this elsewhere on the forums that there should be some method of ending combat besides the death of all your enemies. You can technically knock them out, sure, but since they remain hostile this basically just delayed the murdering. Also it can be very tedious to do this.

My suggestion is similar to yours: a persuasion or intimidate check, with the DC decreasing depending on how many enemies you've incapacitated.
-the DC is somehow related to the CR of the enemies: E.g., DC 15 for the tieflings guarding Sazza and DC ~25 for combat with the goblin leaders
-kill/incapacitate their leader (Minthara, Zevlor, Kagha): DC drops by ~5
-every enemy killed decreases the DC for intimidation check by 2 and the persuasion check by 1
-every enemy knocked out decreases the DC for persuasion check by 2 and the intimidation check by 1
-to prevent spamming this check to cheese every combat, maybe you can only make this check once or twice per combat and it costs an action to do

This would have many benefits
-A quick end to tedious fights that you're ~guaranteed to win, but it will take many more turns to actually kill/knock out the remaining enemies.
-Possible interrogation of enemy leaders instead of just killing them
-Enabling additional roleplay: e.g., playing a PC who is against killing
-A middleground between no combat and death. Again, why should I be forced to kill those tieflings guarding Sazza? I should be able to intimidate them: "Hey, I'm much more powerful than you and if you continue fighting me you'll die. Surrender." Knocking them out is BG3's current option for this, but unless things have changed, they remain hostile and leaving them alive can possibly lead to the entire tiefling camp becoming hostile.

This would be so cool. Negotiations are a blast in SMT and I would love to have them in Baldur's Gate 3.

Negotiations would alleviate the issue of failing the skill check in the conversation and they would help players complete pacifist runs.

As a Minimum, I'm picturing:
If player tried to persuade/intimidate to avoid combat.
AND
enough enemies are dead, unconscious, prone, etc.
AND
If the leader is still alive and about to be killed/knocked out (successful roll)
THEN
Leader will try to resume the conversation as if the player had succeeded the skill check.

The player will be given the option to show mercy or kill.

I would love to be able to demand ransoms, etc. But that is a lot of additional voice acted dialogue. If Larian is willing to do it, I'm willing to have it

I see you had quite simliar idea to me. I agree that for many cases we should be able to end the combat in non-lethal way. The siege situation especially comes to my mind, or the camp fight with Halsin/Minthara.

Either way, a way to stop accidentally triggered combat would be great too. I will state my point, from previous post on forum because it applies to this as well.





It was discussed here:
https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=748888&page=2
If you are interested. The first post on first page and the 4 th post from the bottom on the second page are the most important parts.