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Originally Posted by spectralhunter
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The citizens of Elturel swore a sort of oath-of-alleigence that required them to defend the city. This oath was corrupted so that the citizens had unknowingly sworn themselves into Zariels service.

So it seems that it is possible for Karlach or Anders to have been bound to Zariel without their consent.

Interesting idea.

Anders I am sure sold his soul outright. He even says so when he’s caught in his lie.

It’s possible Karlach was caught up in the oath but her story suggests she was fighting the blood war for quite some time. And it doesn’t explain why the other tiefling refugees aren’t targeted personally by Zariel.


It does sound like Karlach is much older than Anders, and she says that her soul was indentured in Baldur's Gate, not Elturel -- she sounded like a jaded veteran who had spent at least a couple of centuries climbing the ranks in Avernus, while the fall of Elturel and Anders' oath is relatively recent in-game.

This means two things:
1) Anders, as a human still alive, is not yet conscious of what it exactly means to be a Zariel soldier IN the Blood War. He's still in the honeymoon stage, so to speak.
2) Karlach is one of the two (potential) companion characters that were around when Baldur's Gate 2 took place... the other one being JerkMagistrate!Astarion, pre-bite. Astarion, who has what looks like an Infernal seal carved on his back. I'm betting my two soulcoins that their Act 2 and 3 questlines are linked.

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Originally Posted by spectralhunter
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Karlach on the other hand says she was a prisoner of Zariel. I don't believe she mentions selling her soul. Anyway, she is a Tiefling, not a devil. And she has a tadpole.

She doesn’t but with deductive reasoning, you can make the assertion she either sold her soul or was in fact someone who worshipped devils and died. That would take your soul to Avernus in the afterlife. Her being a prisoner can be considered embellishment on her part.

Either scenario doesn’t make her innocent.

Also I never got the implication that she has a tadpole. Your character can make mind links and other mental abilities with non-hosts, such as using the power to bypass certain dialogue with the goblins. The game never explicitly says she’s infected.

Actually, yes it does say she's infected. The mind links you make with the non-infected are the ones where you only need to roll a 1 to win them over. With others who are infected, you can see their memories. Plus the game literally tells you she has a tadpole.

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Actually, yes it does say she's infected. The mind links you make with the non-infected are the ones where you only need to roll a 1 to win them over. With others who are infected, you can see their memories. Plus the game literally tells you she has a tadpole.

I must’ve missed that dialogue chain. Pity. I would have liked companions who weren’t infected. Now I’m starting to suspect this is basically bhaalspawn part two.

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I mean... Halsin isn't infected, but he's an NPC at this point. Who can say if we'll be able to add him to the party?

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...All NPCSs are NPCs


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So yeah but Karlach is not infected by a Tadpol I am pretty sure of it.

We do not know wether she was in that other "prison capsule" we found later on near the bridge leading to the ruined Village.
Or even if she used this like an ODST (lol) to ... haha "helljump" her way out of there ^_^
maybe she used that think correctly by mistake without any Mindflayer intervention.


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ODST reference in the spoiler

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Karlach is 99% likely tadpoled. You get the same kind of interaction with her as you only get with other tadpoled people.


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