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Originally Posted by Piff
Many Monks are Ascetics, despite what form it takes, they seek a higher spiritual state through discipline or self-denial (and some also practice self-mortification). If the name gets changed, that is what I'd change it to.

Ascetic DOES work quite well and is more focused on what they are than Mystic (which IS a bit too magic leaning, hence my early dislike of it)

All the monks are based around self-discipline (self-denial and self-mortification are more optional elements) and that works well.

When you said Ascetic the only other term I thought of that would be similar was "Devotee"

Some people would note that Drunken Master is a bit off, but they're still about self-perfection and they don't actually get powered by drinking (thank god).

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Originally Posted by Cityracer
Edit: Also, Tonfa would be a great Monk weapon.


On the subject of Monk weapons... it would be nice to have alternate weapon designs in general.

Mechanically, Tonfa is a Club... and I've seen nunchaku variously suggested (in PHB and DMG) as either a flail or club. That said, this is sort of a later thing since I'd rather them spend time on getting the major elements of the game working.

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Originally Posted by urktheturtle
I am a big advocate for the monk class being renamed "pugilist" or something, but dont worry its not like a european monk, or anything like that... even in flavor, and its not that much like an eastern monk either (just a bit).

Monk is just a name.

The problem is pugilist is another title that's a bit to narrow in it's implications. It's basically the same problem as monk, just moved to a different place on the venn diagram.

We need a name that is broader.

The more I think, the more "Mystic" doesn't seem so terrible. Not really a caster, but someone that does weird supernatural stuff, and even base monk has a lot of that.

I dont want baseline monk punch-class to have any mystical abilities at all in any way shape or form, those can be saved for subclasses.

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Monk is 5e already has Ki Points which fuels its abilities. Though arguably for monk RAW is the best way to go.

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