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For one reason or another everytime I play this game my characters hit a bug in the skill system - mostly from broken skills. What I'd like is a stright answer from a developer, not you fans, on which skills are still broken and when they will be fixed. It's [nocando] annoying knowing I wasted $50 US on this game and I can't even play it as advertised on the back of the box.

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Did you apply the latest patch?


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Yes, I've played the game with the lastest patch. And, no the patch doesn't fix the broken skills - skills that are used for the only three builds that I'm interested in playing in this game.

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you mean the ranged skills??


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For two of my builds, yes ranged skills (pure archer using bow and crossbow, and a archer/mage). Then there's my necromancer build, but that won't work because resurrection and command are still buggy (command crashes the game the second it's used, and I've forgotten what's wrong with resurrection but I rememeber it being buggy as well).

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Archers are over powered as it is, so the little bit of missed damage from not being able to effectively use True Shot or Crossbow Expertise is not significant (the speed bonus of the crossbow skill works).
If you run into the problems with Aura of Command or summoned / resurrected creatures, that would pretty much disable a summoner / necromancer style, though.

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I don't care if archer are over powered. That's not the point. The point is on the back of the box it advertises, in bold font I might add, there are 96 working skills in the game. So I expect 96 working skills. Maybe the concept of getting what you paid for is lost on you.

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Well, you could say the same about censored software. If a game is censored here in Germany because of its violence, we here in Germany don't get the full game, we get a - more or les "crippled" game (or do you think green blood is natural ?) You could easily apply it to that as well.

About "getting what you paied for" : We here in Germany won't get the full speech of <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> because Ubi Soft seemingly says that this is too expensive. From a point of view, we here in Germany get a "crippled" game, too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I think it's mostly up to interpretation.

Although I agree that I would like to see one last Patch for <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> for all those things which still need to be fixed.


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Well there's a difference between getting a "crippled" game and getting a game that doesn't work as advertised. The "crippled" most likely won't advertise full speech in the game if it isn't in. That's false advertising, and the state I live in we have strict laws against it. If I wanted to be an [nocando]-hole I could sue both CDV and Larian for false advertising and get a nice sum of cash out of it, but I'm not I'll get just my $50 back if it comes down to it - I'm still waiting on a reply from CDV for a refund. I guess I learned my lesson; never buy from amatur developers.

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Good idea. Professional developers' programs never have any bugs. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

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Where did I say that proven developers don't produce games without bugs? Re-read my post and point it out to me. No really, I would like to see when I said that. Don't put words in my mouth, [nocando]. God I hate morons.

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You are complaining about bugs in Divinity, claiming the broken skills make the game unplayable, though the 2 broken ranged skills have no significant impact on that character type.

Next you say you've learnt you lesson and will never buy from 'amateur' developers.

Now, if you were not implying any kind of relationship between 'amateur' developers and bugs, then why would the latter teach you a lesson about avoiding the former?

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And i hate people that think they can sue everyone. (Are you American????) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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Carrie! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> I hate you to!

I'm sueing you! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />



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I don't care if archer are over powered. That's not the point. The point is on the back of the box it advertises, in bold font I might add, there are 96 working skills in the game. So I expect 96 working skills. Maybe the concept of getting what you paid for is lost on you.



now wait a minute.

you would sue 50 dollers. 5, 0. 50. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> go all the way to Europe, thats more then 50.


and you'd sue. for 2 skills. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> 2 skills??? AND YOU WOULD SUE!? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />


2 friggen skills??? BWAH. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

and, checks, it doesn't say WORKING.

doesn't promise they will work. just that they're in there. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />



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yap, i can understand yaaj. its kind of frustrating buying a game, starting to play and lateron getting to realize that the version aint functioning the correct way. also your old savegames will be lost if you use the patches. very nice indeed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />

still i think the problem is not the developers but the marketing division. those people dont know what theyre doing. e.g. they want to sell their product before x-mas for all the nice presents meaning a lot of nice money....it doesnt matter at all if the developers tell them not to be ready yet. this is a f***** up marketing world.

still they are loosing the game, for only passionate players will buy such products. people who just want to play once or twice will stop buying any new games on the market for all the trouble this causes. at last we all end up waiting for games that are 2 years old and price reduced. which aint fair - the developers spend a lot of work in products like dd.

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[color:"orange"]also your old savegames will be lost if you use the patches.[/color]

No, they won't. Some of the story fixes are not applied retroactively, but all of the technical fixes and changes (extra quicksave, etc) do work with previous saves.

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id very much like if it were true, but: yes, they did that to the german version. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" /> youre lucky, raze!!!

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