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Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: MonkehmaN] #225543
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Look MonkehmaN, I appreciate you helping, but all the things I say ARE bugs, and I NEVER PANIC !
I don't say these things to put the game down, and immediately the second after I find the error or bug, I always try to reproduce them, and my system is A OK. I have worked for a help desk where it was necessary to know a lot about a computers and the corresponding configurations. I have studied informatics etc. and can say that I know a LOT MORE about computers then most people do, not saying I know more then you, just saying I know a LOT about them !
I always keep my system updated and have yet to have problems with a game, which were caused by my system.
I know enough about computers and games, so that when I encounter a bug or error, I can (90% of the time) say that it is game or system related, all the bugs I posted here are GAME related. Has nothing to do with my system, my system is a super tweaked machine which runs all games perfectly well, including this game.

Besides that I played Divine Divinity also, and that game had just the same sort of bugs (kinda), and seeing as this game is developed on the same engine, I'm 100% sure these are bugs/inaccuracies.

Besides that I always provide screens to make all things clearer.
I truly hate it when people say I don't know enough about my system, or that it isn't configured well. Seeing that I have helped so many people already with computer problems (ok, maybe not here ), this is just funny, but anyway, you couldn't know that so I won't mind.
Besides that I always find bugs in games which the official testers of the game don't seem to have found, that is just my life story ... maybe I should be one of them, but that's for others to decide.

Besides that, all the things I posted is POSITIVE critic, and I do NOT want to put people off playing the game, the things I said here are not even GAME BLOCKING !!! I am just mentioning these things to help them make a newer/better patch ...
Simple as that, NONE of these things are caused by my system, I assure you !
+ it will help make things clearer for people having the same problems ...

The picture I provided with the black screen instead of a mini pic of where you are is a bug ! That could NEVER be caused by my system if you would know enough about computers ... and this I do NOT mean as an insult !
Same goes for all the other things I said, and IF I think it's caused by my system, I will say it !
Besides that, many of those problems were already mentioned in the forum threads about the DEMO !!! Seeing that they still aren't fixed after a patch ... made me make this thread, + I want to support Larian by helping finding bugs etc. so that they can make the game better for people who are not so good at these things ... !!!

Just wanted to esxplain that I am quite a pro at pc's themselves (whether you believe this or not is not my problem) ... Larian or the ones reading this will check it, and will see that I am right !
Besides I always relativate the problems I find, and as I said in EVERY post here, the game still OWNZ and the things I've found are not BIG bugs, only lil' ones ! I'm just good at finding things like that it seems.

I do not mind you saying things like that, just as I hope you don't mind me explaining things like that.



Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225544
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Wait for the patch and start over.

Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225545
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Found another mini bug :



This melon weighs nothing ... not really a problem, but still, not correct either
I knew melons were light, but 0 weight

...

On with the search

Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225546
05/05/04 05:20 PM
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Maybe its a diet melon?

Nice screenies BTW.


" Road rage, air rage. Why should I be forced to divide my rage into seperate categories? To me, it's just one big, all-around, everyday rage. I don't have time for distinctions. I'm too busy screaming at people. " -George Carlin
Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: Womble] #225547
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Tx finally some appreciation.

Not that I'm doing it for that, I just find it a lot of fun tinkering with stuff till they error





Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: DoritoOfDeath] #225548
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DoritoOfDeath
Wait for the patch and start over.




Euhmh, LoL DoritoOfDeath, first of all, I never waited for any patches.
Second of all, I won't start over until I've played it out.
Third of all, that's just the point of me making this thread, helping them (LARIAN etc.) make a newer, better patch for people who are STARTING the game !!!

LoL ...


How many more times do I have to say, the game ownz, all these things I've found do NOT BOTHER ME PERSONALLY !
It's not more then normal to point out that there are still some bugs left (the game is just out), and pointing them out here HELPS Larian ... as you should've read in the manual introductory of the game
Me doing this will help diminish the possible negative posts they might still receive here.

And again, I do not mind you saying things like that, just as I hope you don't mind me explaining things like that.
(Damn that rhymes )



Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225549
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1.4 patch is here !!!!

http://www.larian.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Rift_general&Number=151218&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Let's hope it fixes some stuff I said


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EDIT : UPDATE.

Ohoh

These are the fixes :
http://www.larian.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Rift_general&Number=151231&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

But I'm afraid I already encountered something weird ... you can read it in the above thread.


Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225550
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Edit Again:

[This post has been stolen by imps.]



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Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: MonkehmaN] #225551
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?


We're not holding a contest here


Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225552
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Redrum, would it be possible to either show your pics as a link or resize them please? It's a bit strenuous for me to keep on using the slider - thank you in advance. and yes, I have 1024 resolution.
Kiya

About the missing screenie function => I still hope - but I can't demand it. It's a Larian decision after all, right? And if they prefer to fix other stuff - I accept, as my game doesn't crash by switching.

Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225553
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when i first started playing i could see the saves screenies, now after applying the latest patch i cant, just a black rectangle where the pic should be.
Dunno if thats a patch problem, also when i exited the battlefields there was no more sound, i went to options and changed the volume settings, sound came back but was gone again after the first fight, wonder if i can remove the patch, does anyone know?
Also i was wondering if anyone has problems with the scrolling like i do, it kinda annoys me that when the mouse cursor gets about 1/4" from the screen edge, the image scrolls abruptly in that direction, i couldnt find any adjustment and i hate it.
Maybe anyone knows a trick to change or adjust this feature?
Thx everyone


Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: kay26] #225554
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I'm gonna resize ALL the pics and reupload them, specially for you Kiya !





Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225555
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Yep the 'black screen on loading' bug is still there. Don't think everybody has this problem, but I do, also after 1.4 patch.
Screenie :




Voila.

They should fit nicely now Kiya

PS.: also posted a screenie for the 'looping encumbrance' bug, which you guys already had found, just to add some proof http://www.larian.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?cat=&Board=BDTECHNICAL&Number=151667&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225556
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Oh no

After taking the screenie for the encumbrance bug, I went back to the game, loaded my last save, and when I looked at my map it was totally black (I believe some others already posted this too somewhere). As I remember correctly there was this kind of bug with Divine Divinity too ...



When I took the full screen map it was the same, a pitch black map ...




Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225557
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Come on man take it easy.
The screenshot/save black save screen is something mentioned a long time ago by Larian.
If you want to see save screen when browsing saves, and see it while it is loading, and do screencaps with the game engine, just disable the FSAA ( set to 0 (asuming you dont force it in windows) ) and you'll get everything back to normal.

And btw stop flaming MonkehmaN cause all he said was very true.
As you speak of your so huge knowledge in comps and so on, you should know he was.



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Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: Match] #225558
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LoL ... ?

The reactions I see from people like you and MonkehmaN are truly incomprehensive ...

First of all, all I say here, is not to NAG, or to hassle the developers, instead (HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY AGAIN ???! DO YOU EVEN READ ???) it is fully to help get those little bugs (or whatever you people like to call it ... ) removed from the game, this will BENEFIT EVERYONE !!!! What is wrong with that ?????!!!!!

Second of all, the screenshot thingie might have been mentioned a LONG time ago by Larian, but the Patch 1.40 is just from YESTERDAY. Seeing as this 'black screenie' thing is a bug, wether you have FSAA ON or OFF should have NOTHING to do with it, thus it is a bug !!! Everyone should be perfectly capable of playing the game WITH FSAA AND having those lil' pics in the load screen ! (and I assure you that there WILL be a patch which corrects this !)
And AGAIN (for the 10.000th time), I MYSELF DO NOT MIND THIS AND I LOVE THE GAME AND CAN PLAY IT PERFECTLY WELL WITHOUT SCREENS , but in case Larian would have forgotten, I remind them of this in case they thought it would've been fixed already with the latest patch, just a dedicated gamer loyal to his own country's top rpg maker !!!

Third of all, I wasn't flaming MonkehmaN at all ROFL, where did you get that from (again you did not read it like you should have). MonkehmaN himself was wrong in saying that I was nagging and/or panicing, since I am not doing this to give the game a negative side (AGAIN I have to explain this, you clearly did not read my post!). And besides, him saying the following about the things I posted :
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I played far too many MMORPG in beta btw (games of the devil) to pass time in University . The majority of bugs were conflicts between .exe / OS or something similar. On the other hand, MMORPG's are bug-city.




It has nothing to do with MMORPG, the bugs I posted have nothing even to do with problems concerning the .exe and my OS LoL ... thus concluding that my knowledge of these things is greater. I didn't want to say it, but you forced me to explain it !

Besides, proof of not flaming him :
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... and can say that I know a LOT MORE about computers then most people do, not saying I know more then you, just saying I know a LOT about them !




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Just wanted to esxplain that I am quite a pro at pc's themselves (whether you believe this or not is not my problem) ...




Quote:


Besides I always relativate the problems I find, and as I said in EVERY post here, the game still OWNZ and the things I've found are not BIG bugs, only lil' ones ! I'm just good at finding things like that it seems.

I do not mind you saying things like that, just as I hope you don't mind me explaining things like that.






If you call those things flaming ... ... then you haven't read too many posts on forums I guess ... and if MonkehmaN thought of it like that, then I'm sorry but he misunderstood. (but I think only you misunderstood)

Fourth of all, again, I NEVER said I knew more about these things than he does, EXCEPT for now in THIS post !!!

AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY HELP, AND POSITIVE CRITIC I POST HERE ABOUT THE GAME !!!
THE GAME IS ONE OF THE BEST RPGS NOW AVAILABLE !!!

djeezes

Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225559
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First of all, I have absolutely nothing to do with the above poster, so kindly don't use me to prove a point to him.

Secondly, as I explained in my post which I DELETED to avoid this flame war (you bought it back up, not me) I was talking about MYSELF panicing at stuff not you. You misread my initial post and that is not my problem. The OS and DirectX comment was a general question which I was curious about. Funnily enough you saw this as an insult to your super-intelligence and so proceeded to type exactly why you're superior to me. Yawn indeed.

Thirdly, posting about me is flaming IN MY OPINION because originally all I was doing was trying to help. You have now posted two times questioning my intelligence. That IS flaming. If you do not see it as flaming, that's your problem. What I cannot believe is I actually tried to help you, and I get a response like that. How am I to know you are an absolute genius and know everything under the sun? People help each other on forum and flaming them for trying is just damn lame.

You are funny. Good Job.

Now get the hell off my back, you don't know me.

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And btw stop flaming MonkehmaN cause all he said was very true.
As you speak of your so huge knowledge in comps and so on, you should know he was.




Thanks btw, at least it wasn't just me who saw his superiority complex as insulting.



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Re: Some things I think could help fixing ! [Re: RedruM] #225560
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Thank you, Redrum - now I'm able to read better
Kiya

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