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I don't think there is even a manual on the Disc's! That's really too bad, cause the Arcanum manual was a true gem, a jewel in the crown of the RPG genre IMHO, better than some novels even <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Are you sure there's no PDF anywhere? All budget games I have, have PDF manuals on-disc...
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Cheeeeers Rashida, i'll download the lot <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> I'll also take a butchers at the other install disc's just in case. Again thanks y'all. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> . . . . [color:"yellow"] DOH!!! [/color] Guess what??? I just looked at the Install disc in windows explorer and there it was, The manual in PDF format and guess what else???....only the blinkin' 1.07.04 patch which i had downloaded only a couple of nights ago!!! [color:"yellow"] DOH!! [/color] <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />
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lol ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> Yes, I must agree upon the handbook : It is one of the best one's I've seen so far (or should I say : In my short RPG career <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ) . Another Gem is the Handbook to Homeworld I .
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Ah, the wordy manual written in victorian english. It was a gem indeed. Why I love buying games at low prices: there wasn't one case when there wasn't the patch and the manual on CD <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />.
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Now i know, thanks for telling me mate!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />
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That is a relief. Cause I plan to go and buy the game today <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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you can have my everything...
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By the way - you'll come across (small spoiler) a certain name: Nasrudin.
Actually, Nasrudin exists as a literary figure of humour in islamic literature. It is possible that he was once a real person who lived in Turkey, but that isn't possible to prove or disprove anymore. He has several names, I know him as Nasrudin Afanti, Effendi Nasrudin, Nasreddin, Mulla Nasrudin and such names.
There are many funny stories about him out there !
When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it.
--Dilbert cartoon
"Interplay.some zombiefied unlife thing going on there" - skavenhorde at RPGWatch
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By the way - you'll come across (small spoiler) a certain name: Nasrudin.
Actually, Nasrudin exists as a literary figure of humour in islamic literature. It is possible that he was once a real person who lived in Turkey, but that isn't possible to prove or disprove anymore. He has several names, I know him as Nasrudin Afanti, Effendi Nasrudin, Nasreddin, Mulla Nasrudin and such names.
There are many funny stories about him out there !
Ah yes, I remember stories about him <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. Seems like Troika really had some fun mixing all they could lay their hands on in their game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />.
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He is the national joke in Greece. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />
Btw Al did you know that Efendi = afendi in Greek and it means "master"? (the tone to fe)
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Thanks for the info, Luc ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I had thought that Effendi is the title given to one wo has been to Mekka at least once, but since I'm not into this field of terms, I cannot surely say.
When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it.
--Dilbert cartoon
"Interplay.some zombiefied unlife thing going on there" - skavenhorde at RPGWatch
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Well Al I do not know how Turks mean it. Perhaps they use it in such cases. I am not familiar with their language too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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I think it's an honorific meaning "master." We've lost that in English; the closest we have to it is "Sir," not as in the English title, but in the American sense: "Thank you, sir." Effendi, though, implies more.
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True. The English Sir shows respect and honnor. Afendi in Greece is not a good thing. Sir in Greece is the word Kirie (the tone to first i) and we use it exactly as "sir". The "afenti" means here the "boss" the "master" who has the control. My feet are killing me.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />
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@Lucretia...Have you got Arcanum yet? and if yes, how are you finding it?
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Edit:
From here on, I won't advise you reading untill you've been to the big mansion in the center of the industrial City of Arcanum.
I have noted a curious thing about Arcanum. Don't you find the name Gilbert Bates odd?
Gilbert can be shortened as Gil so we get Gill Bates. Switch the first letters and you get:
Bill Gates.
Now there's a rumour that Gates didn't invent DOS. He procured it from Apple. Apple wasn't interested in patenting DOS and let it "rust in a corner". Gates took the system and so created Windows.
Do you see the connection to Gilbert Bates in Arcanum?
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I know the real story :
IBM wanted an OS for their new system, the forthcoming original IBM-PC.
They asked both Bill Gates and the chief of Digital Research.
The god man wasn't met, instead his wife, and the IBM people only wanted to speak to the man (sorry, Ive forgot his name), buit had to leave, because he wasn't there.
So the story goes that DR was not involved in that.
Instead, Gates agreed, and BOUGHT an already existing OS called "QDOS" ("Quick-and-dirty-Disc-Operating-System" was it's title, as far as I haver read it), and modelled it into MS-DOS, selling it with the Original IBM PC.
DR-DOS was created after that, and MS did everything to hinter it (it is proved that Microsoft included routines into Windows 3.1 in order to let it not work together with DR-DOS, then).
That's the real story.
When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it.
--Dilbert cartoon
"Interplay.some zombiefied unlife thing going on there" - skavenhorde at RPGWatch
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I know the real story :
IBM wanted an OS for their new system, the forthcoming original IBM-PC.
They asked both Bill Gates and the chief of Digital Research.
The god man wasn't met, instead his wife, and the IBM people only wanted to speak to the man (sorry, Ive forgot his name), buit had to leave, because he wasn't there.
So the story goes that DR was not involved in that.
Instead, Gates agreed, and BOUGHT an already existing OS called "QDOS" ("Quick-and-dirty-Disc-Operating-System" was it's title, as far as I haver read it), and modelled it into MS-DOS, selling it with the Original IBM PC.
DR-DOS was created after that, and MS did everything to hinter it (it is proved that Microsoft included routines into Windows 3.1 in order to let it not work together with DR-DOS, then).
That's the real story.
Ressembles to Arcanum's Gill Bates' Steam Engine invention <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />.
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Interesting. I didn't know that (never got this far in the game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> ) . Also, I should perhaps keep away from this thread because of spoilers ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it.
--Dilbert cartoon
"Interplay.some zombiefied unlife thing going on there" - skavenhorde at RPGWatch
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My apologies. I thought that everyone were past this point, after all, the dialogue with Gilbert Bates preceeds your advance to the tenth level.
But if you think it's a spoiler, I can edit the thread.
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Yes, for Lucretia, maybe. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> Or : Too late, I've read it ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> You know the new spoiler tag ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it.
--Dilbert cartoon
"Interplay.some zombiefied unlife thing going on there" - skavenhorde at RPGWatch
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Drink Up Ye Cider. 
