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Sorry, but the only thing we know so far is that it's in development. Nothing new, yet.

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AFAIK, DD2 is at least a year or more away from release. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

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Oh, how I do hope that Larian also develops a Toolset for DD2.
So we as players can develop Campaigns of our own to share with the whole community like Bioware did.

DD is such a wonderfully Brilliant game <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/kissyou.gif" alt="" /> and it always makes me so sad when it comes to the end game. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />


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Is it true that dd will be a like morrorwind...i.e the camera will be "the eyes" of the player?

If so i think i might find DD very daunting as i expect the maps to be huge!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />

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please don't take this personally but i think first person perspective sucks monkey balls. i rather have the traditional isometric view as it's easier for orientation & movement. plus i love this view since i start gaming in 1989.



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Since the game is full 3D, the camera angle may be adjustable. I doubt they would change from an isometric perspective to exclusively first person.

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so , perchance we will have multi perspectives to choose from,
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Well both views have their good an bad points. I'm with Janggut though, stick with the iso type view, but then have it all 3d rotatable...ala neverwinter nights.

First person is good, but the tunnel vision aspect of it makes combat a bit cumbersome.

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so , perchance we will have multi perspectives to choose from,
be the good lord willing, and the programmers able! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


I don't remember where, but I believe I've read somewhere that Larian is tossing around the idea of DD2 being Multi. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Again, I'll plug my earlier comment.

I sure hope DD2 has a Toolset with it so we as players can build mods to continue its growth. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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If I understand this right, we're talking a possibillity to choose between 2D and 3D (or first or third prespective). This sounds like a very nice sellution- IF they have time to get both of them right, that is. (Have I completely misunderstood what you've been saying the last posts? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> Would be nice to know...)

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Ack! No! No rotation!

I can just imagine myself getting a huge headache while exploring a huge town cause of that dang rotation needed to view every single square inch for a chest or barrel or something.

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Toolset would be interesting...I would like to see goblins,giants and Werewolves in DD2(Hint..my suggestons hint..lol.)

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Ack! No! No rotation!

I can just imagine myself getting a huge headache while exploring a huge town cause of that dang rotation needed to view every single square inch for a chest or barrel or something.

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I really, really doubt they would get that anal in the games creation.

Look at NWN it has rotation and it's not anything like what you fear.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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Rotation ? Karussell ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />


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Ack! No! No rotation!

I can just imagine myself getting a huge headache while exploring a huge town cause of that dang rotation needed to view every single square inch for a chest or barrel or something.

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No need to fear Taski897.

I really, really doubt they would get that anal in the games creation.

Look at NWN it has rotation and it's not anything like what you fear.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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Bioware went from 2D to 3D no problem w/ NWN, w/ their Engine.
Problem w/ NWN was -- well, they forgot to make a SOLID SP component.

Though, SOU and HOTU patched that problem up <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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What does this mean "they forgot to make a solid SP component" ? Was the MP part more solid that the SP part or how have I to understand this ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


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He's probably referring to the fact that when NWN was released there was widespread criticism that the Official (SP) Campaign was pretty crummy. Bioware's main object with NWN appeared to be producing a program that was multiplayer friendly, and in particular good for use in the traditional D&D manner - with a controlling 'Dungeon Master'.

The 2 add ons since and hundreds of mods seems to have since blunted the criticism that the original SP campaign was poor value for money if you only bought it for SP. And not everyone disliked the original campaign. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

But on the subject of DD2 release - have a look at RPGdot's release list. They have DD2 coming out THIS month!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shhh.gif" alt="" /> On the other hand, they have The Bard's Tale coming out on PS2 and X box this time NEXT year! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

The somewhat out of date RPGdot list

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OK, since posting the above I emailed RPGdot with some comment on their release list. I got an amazingly quick reply from them saying that they would amend the listings for The Bard's Tale and DD2 (which they now have done).

They now list DD2 as coming out in the first quarter of 2050 - so only 45 years to wait now. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> I can't wait to see what Larian can do with 45 years of development time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

2050 should be a fabulous year for games as they also list Arx Fatalis 2, Gothic 3, Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, Jagged Alliance 3, Dragon Wars, and a host of other titles all coming out at the beginning of 2050.

Should be a cracker year - pity I'll be 103 by then. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

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RPG isn't the kind of guys who makes risky guesses, like next year or something, it seems. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />. But no problem, 2050 I'll be 67 years old and will have plenty of time.

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Isn't that about the ti9me when the Halley Comet will return ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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Isn't that about the ti9me when the Halley Comet will return ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


I don't whach comets, so I will have plenty of time anywhay <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />.

Another thread that has gone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />. We're good at it, aren't we?

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You should take a look at how fast threads go off-topic in the German section ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />



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You should take a look at how fast threads go off-topic in the German section ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

In the french section no thread goes off-topic.
In the french section there is no spam.

Why ?

Because nobody writes posts in the french section.

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I would, if I knew how to do that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
Anyway, in the German section we currently have a thread about the russian language ("Ausländer").


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Ausländer... Isn't that foreingers?

And Barta, where have you been? (Apparently bnot in the french forum...)

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Jep, you're right. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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When will DD2 be released?

Anybody knows? Anybody knows? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


Ummm....when it's done....?

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Yes. Lynn does. And she tells all the important people it every day on our super secret chat room. We all have it branded into our memory. Its impossible to drag it out of us though. Barta is the offical gatekeeper, armed with the Potatoe of justice. And it anyone tries to come in and listen on how the game is, when Lynn, Marian, and Lar are telling us, Lews just laughs at them.



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Isn't that about the ti9me when the Halley Comet will return ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


no, that will be the time when we'll all be playing sticks & stones since the new ice age will dawn upon us and we'll be forced to live in caves again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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From Alrik:
What does this mean "they forgot to make a solid SP component" ? Was the MP part more solid that the SP part or how have I to understand this ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Yes, the MP was very good.

The NWN Original Campaign SP felt quite tacked-on. It was quite linear for a Bioware game and many conversations, no matter what you said, resulted in the same result -- even if you said good or evil response.

The 2 Expansions and the numerous high-quality mods made NWN's Solo Component awesome, though.


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"I sure hope DD2 has a Toolset with it so we as players can build mods to continue its growth."

Look what it did for NWN -- NWN still booms to this very day b/c of its HUGE support for its mod community.

Not many games can say they've stayed on my Hard Drive since they were first released.

PS:T, Morrowind, The Sims, and NWN still sit on my hard drive. Most games I have come and go from my HD. These have never moved.

Given what I've said about NWN, if DD2 is to have a Toolset, I hope it gets support by Larian & the Community to the likes NWN & Morrowind have received.



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Yes. Lynn does. And she tells all the important people it every day on our super secret chat room. We all have it branded into our memory. Its impossible to drag it out of us though. Barta is the offical gatekeeper, armed with the Potatoe of justice. And it anyone tries to come in and listen on how the game is, when Lynn, Marian, and Lar are telling us, Lews just laughs at them.

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Isn't that about the ti9me when the Halley Comet will return ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


no, that will be the time when we'll all be playing sticks & stones since the new ice age will dawn upon us and we'll be forced to live in caves again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


Dude that would suck!!

There's gonna be a DD2? Man I must really live a sheltered life............


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Isn't that about the ti9me when the Halley Comet will return ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


no, that will be the time when we'll all be playing sticks & stones since the new ice age will dawn upon us and we'll be forced to live in caves again. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


Dude that would suck!!

There's gonna be a DD2? Man I must really live a sheltered life............


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Ok then...then I'm just really stupid then.........


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Ok then...then I'm just really stupid then.........


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Though, whether the game should have a sequel is another story.

For example, I could never see a sequel to Planescape: Torment w/ The Nameless One. If anything, I could see another game taking place in The Planescape Universe and Sigil, though.

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Yes, a sequel. I want a sequel even though I haven't finished Divine Divinity yet.

Sequels are good if they can measure up to the first one or be even better. Most people like to see a sequel if it is really good. Divine Divinity is that good. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

But it is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo far away. Did someone say 2 to 3 years?
That is like a lifetime. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

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Play beyond divinity.

It will keep you occupied..i have to buy it...i might fo so tomorrow.

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But I want to play DD2 when I finish Divine Divinity. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

Guess I don't have much choice, do I? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />

So, you've got the right idea tragic and that's
what I had planned to do. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

What do I do after that? DD2 still won't be out. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

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But I want to play DD2 when I finish Divine Divinity. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

Guess I don't have much choice, do I? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />

So, you've got the right idea tragic and that's
what I had planned to do. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

What do I do after that? DD2 still won't be out. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

Shantara <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Play NWN2 until DD2 comes? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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But I want to play DD2 when I finish Divine Divinity. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

Guess I don't have much choice, do I? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />

So, you've got the right idea tragic and that's
what I had planned to do. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

What do I do after that? DD2 still won't be out. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

Shantara <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Play NWN2 until DD2 comes? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


When is it due out? And don't tell me 2 to 3 years. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

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2 to 3 years... oh, sorry...



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But I want to play DD2 when I finish Divine Divinity. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

Guess I don't have much choice, do I? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/question.gif" alt="" />

So, you've got the right idea tragic and that's
what I had planned to do. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

What do I do after that? DD2 still won't be out. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

Shantara <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Play NWN2 until DD2 comes? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


NWN 2 is due in 2006.


When is it due out? And don't tell me 2 to 3 years. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

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When is it due out? And don't tell me 2 to 3 years. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

MysterD:
NWN 2 is due in 2006.


I told you not to tell me that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

That is still ages upon ages away. I should
finish DD and BD way before then.

Can't you do any better than that? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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Shantara:
When is it due out? And don't tell me 2 to 3 years. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

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NWN 2 is due in 2006.


I told you not to tell me that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />

That is still ages upon ages away. I should
finish DD and BD way before then.

Can't you do any better than that? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Shantara <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


KOTORII will be out soon and it looks good.

Will that do in a pinch Shantara?

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Shantara, that avatar is sexy.......I know that was off topic but I can't help it, I'm crazy about elves. Any way, what kind of creatures will be in DD2?


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I certainly hope there is MP in DD2.
It seems to me that the fact that Larian is hiring programmers is a good sign that DD2 is in development. I sure wish I knew more about what's coming and when.


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I certainly hope there is MP in DD2.
It seems to me that the fact that Larian is hiring programmers is a good sign that DD2 is in development. I sure wish I knew more about what's coming and when.

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Haven't you read it already?
DD2 is going to be MP. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
There you go and now you can be happy today.


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Cleglaw,

Haven't you read it already?
DD2 is going to be MP.
There you go and now you can be happy today.

Is it official or just rumor?
Thank you for the wish of happiness.


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Is it official or just rumor?
Thank you for the wish of happiness.

Lar (Swen Vincke) told it in an interview.
Do you think that Lar could spread rumors ?
If you don't believe me, i can make a search for the interview.

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It'll be big - VERY big. It has a very good 3D engine. It's multiplayer. And it contains a lot of cool features. [/color]

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Is it official or just rumor?
Thank you for the wish of happiness.

Lar (Swen Vincke) told it in an interview.
Do you think that Lar could spread rumors ?
If you don't believe me, i can make a search for the interview.

Barta

EDIT : First Riftrunner Interview

[color:"yellow"] Tell us something about Divinity II to whet our appetites!
It'll be big - VERY big. It has a very good 3D engine. It's multiplayer. And it contains a lot of cool features. [/color]


What about the SP for DD2?

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Is it official or just rumor?
Thank you for the wish of happiness.

Lar (Swen Vincke) told it in an interview.
Do you think that Lar could spread rumors ?
If you don't believe me, i can make a search for the interview.

Barta

EDIT : First Riftrunner Interview

[color:"yellow"] Tell us something about Divinity II to whet our appetites!
It'll be big - VERY big. It has a very good 3D engine. It's multiplayer. And it contains a lot of cool features. [/color]

Thanks


The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?
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It woud be nice to have 2-4 demons or dragons...i know there rare but having just one is too little in my view.

When i mean demon i really mean the big strong demons...like lord of choas.

Another thing i am a fan of werewolves/giants.......


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