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#284427 04/01/05 07:12 PM
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Im sorry, but I am tired of all of the anti-American sentiment that is going on here on this forum.

I could easily find bad things to say about any country on our earth, but I dont; because, Im just not like that.

People blaming America for everything, whats the next thing?
America is responsible for the common cold.
Good grief.

Oh well, I know my words fall upon deaf ears here.

Good-bye

And to those who had real hearts Ill miss you.

Take Care


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Why are you leaving. people who caraktirize by nationality are twits. Please don't go.


Not in the mood for cheese?
That excuse has more holes than a slice this fine Gorgombert!
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Hi Kyra Ny

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Im sorry, but I am tired of all of the anti-American sentiment that is going on here on this forum.

I was in vacation since Christmas and i just read a few topics since i am back.
I don't know what have been said about America.

I am french and i am proud to be french.
If one day someone would say some bad things about France, i would be angry and i would answer very badly to this person directly in the forum.
In the forum it is forbiden to flame a member and i think that it should be forbidden to flame a nation or a continent.

I understand that you are angry.
I hope that you will be back later in some days/some months when you will be less angry.

Barta

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I haven't noticed any conversation lately about America. But then again I might have missed some topics. My opinion is well known in this forum. I am totaly oposite in war. At anyplace, anytime, anywhere. But I think that this is natural and it has nothing to do with forum members. What I am trying to say is that there is no need to have a war in this place. We can exchange ideas and tell each other what with think on some matters. Kira there is no need for you to leave. Even if there are people in here that do not like America I am sure that this is not something personal. Prove them wrong. Tell what you think. This is a place of peace. We are friends (even virual).


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LUCRETIA #284431 04/01/05 08:01 PM
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I have explained and I have loved, but some people just don't care. All they care about is their hatred for America.
Their thoughts are who gives a rip about anyone else.
That anyone else being me.

They blame America for not giving enough money.
So I guess America should give none.

They say America is only trying to make money from those hurt or passed on in the Tsunami, but it's really paticular individuals from America doing that.

I've seen plenty from the BBC and other countries doing the same exact thing, but oh no, don't think about them, lets just blame America and Hurt the feelings of people like me.

Who cares, Kyra_Ny is just one of those crummy Americans right?

And what really hurt the most is a couple of those who slammed America the hardest I called them my friend. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />

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And leaving will do what? You will miss the pleasure of being is somewhere you like (or at least I hope so) and give those people the joy that they flamed you from here.

Look it is very usual in here to have conversations like this. And as you can realise yourself, there are so many people from many different coutries in here. It is simply impossible for everybody to agree. Remember what I have told you once? I told you that I do not like the way Americans vote. I mean I was sure that Bush (sp?) would not be your president again. But he is. Anyway I told you how I feel about that. You laughed. We talked. That is it. You know my opinion. I know yours. I respect it. You respect mine too. We are ok. Nothing more nothing less.
Think about it before you leave.
I would leave if someone from the forum members whom I respect and like, would insult me personaly. Give it a thought if you like please.


You can have my absence of faith
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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
Isn't this a bit to...

No one is just blaming America.
I know some great people there. And I'm not the only one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
But you have to admit that American leaders made America very unpopular the latest years.
And those leaders also indulce in being "the biggest".
But when you're the biggest you're an easy target.

When ppl here talk about America they don't mean you or your fellow Americans. They mean America as nation. And your leaders.
I know what your upset about. And hey, I can say the same about Belgian leaders... French, Italian, German leaders.
But... 90% of the forummembers wouldn't know who I'm talking about.
Or do you know fi Guy Verhofstadt (or is it Verhofstad?)
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I thought I made it perfectly clear in my rant on the tsunami that it was my hatred for the American government that drove me to write what I did.

If I didn't, then let me clarify it now. I hate the government, not the people. Well, I hate some of the people who elected Bush with a clear concience but that's another thing....
How the hell can I hate every American when I married one Kyra? Answer me this, please.

Why do I hate the actors/washed up celebs who dive in front of the camera? Because they've never suffered in their lives. Their greatest pain is a dry martini glass. That is what makes me angry.
I mean, people who play make believe for our amusement are telling us how much they 'feel' the suffering of a man who's lost his home, wife and kids??? C'mon! For god's sake!

Personally, I hate all governments equally. They all lie, they all abuse their power. Don't feel bad because I rag on the US government. They just seem to be annoying people the most lately. I'll criticise what I see to be wrong. Free speech.

If you want to take offence on behalf of your people Kyra be my guest. Its a big burden to bear if you ask me.

Oh well. My big mouth... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />


" Road rage, air rage. Why should I be forced to divide my rage into seperate categories? To me, it's just one big, all-around, everyday rage. I don't have time for distinctions. I'm too busy screaming at people. " -George Carlin
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Womble and I still think alike.

Actually... that's scary, after all this time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />


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I think we're OK now....

My wife and I argue like this a lot. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />


" Road rage, air rage. Why should I be forced to divide my rage into seperate categories? To me, it's just one big, all-around, everyday rage. I don't have time for distinctions. I'm too busy screaming at people. " -George Carlin
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@ Luc, Seth, & Womble =>

I know, but it still hurts.
It's like watching someone you love get beat up by a brute and there's nothing you can do about it.

I do understand where you all are coming from and maybe I should wear a thicker skin, but then where would my compassion go?

I just wish hatred was gone forever.


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Im sorry, but I am tired of all of the anti-American sentiment that is going on here on this forum.

I could easily find bad things to say about any country on our earth, but I dont; because, Im just not like that.

People blaming America for everything, whats the next thing?
America is responsible for the common cold.
Good grief.

Oh well, I know my words fall upon deaf ears here.

Good-bye

And to those who had real hearts Ill miss you.

Take Care


Kyra_Ny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

I agree with you. I generally ignore what is said, and I ignore the threads. I spotted some ridiculous statements in the tsunami thread and stopped reading it. However, in spite of some ill thought out remarks by some folks I do enjoy this forum.


The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?
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An American (female) freind and me too.
She didn't voted for Bush, dislikes the regime and all,...
But when we're talking about things like that and I (have to) say something unpleasant about USA...
She also takes it to personal.
Forgot all about the good things.
She can trash on Belgium and Belgian politics as much as she wants. I even agree. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
And I never take it personal.

But the thing is that Americans are tought to be patriotic from birth. No matter if it's right or wrong... USA, USA, USA
Know what I mean?

It's just completely different way of looking at things.

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this is a reply to Womble's post.
I'm getting old and slow
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I agree with you. I generally ignore what is said, and I ignore the threads. I spotted some ridiculous statements in the tsunami thread and stopped reading it. However, in spite of some ill thought out remarks by some folks I do enjoy this forum.

Cleglaw


I love this forum too, I guess that is why it hurt.

I don't want to leave and I know I cry wolf so much, but how do you stop from being hurt?


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@ Luc, Seth, & Womble =>

I know, but it still hurts.
It's like watching someone you love get beat up by a brute and there's nothing you can do about it.

I do understand where you all are coming from and maybe I should wear a thicker skin, but then where would my compassion go?

I just wish hatred was gone forever.

Kyra_Ny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />


... And what do you do when you see someone you love get beaten up?
You stay and fight for him/her. You hit that brute even if you know that you will have some pain too...


You can have my absence of faith
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But the thing is that Americans are tought to be patriotic from birth. No matter if it's right or wrong... USA, USA, USA
Know what I mean?

It's just completely different way of looking at things.


Seth


Yes, I understand, but there are so many Americans who are taught to be respectful, honorable, kind, and considerate to their neighbors too.

Sadly, you never see us; because, the media never shows us to you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shame.gif" alt="" />

For all of the 2, 3, or whatever number of American Jerks you see in your or other countries, there's at least 20 times more Americans who would beat the loving tar out of those Jerks if they thought they could get away with it to teach those Jerks some respect for others.

As I said, Sadly, you never see us; because, the media never shows us to you.


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@ Luc, Seth, & Womble =>

I know, but it still hurts.
It's like watching someone you love get beat up by a brute and there's nothing you can do about it.

I do understand where you all are coming from and maybe I should wear a thicker skin, but then where would my compassion go?

I just wish hatred was gone forever.


Kyra_Ny <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />


A thicker skin is nonsence...
unless you're an elephant maybe. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

and no skin...
that would just be gross <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Maybe you should read through some old posts on this forum.
There used to be lots about politics, religion, and so on...

And you really do have to realise that a lot of the world thinks anti USA these days.
But what you have to realise even more is that that doesn't mean anti Kyra.
Or anti USA citizens.

USA is a country. You are a person. Don't get those two mixed up.

Deal?
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USA is a country. You are a person. Don't get those two mixed up.


Couldn't agree more. Kyra, I think you're cool. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


" Road rage, air rage. Why should I be forced to divide my rage into seperate categories? To me, it's just one big, all-around, everyday rage. I don't have time for distinctions. I'm too busy screaming at people. " -George Carlin
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There you go.
That's just what I been saying. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Indeed
That's what most ppl see and what they react on.
And why they react in this or that way.
They don't react on you!

- on a side note.
I don't rely on just media. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
And I have seen Americans like you. My freinds overthere have webcams. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
One visited me here.


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- on a side note.
I don't rely on just media. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
And I have seen Americans like you. My freinds overthere have webcams. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
One visited me here.

Setharmon


<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> I hope you don't mean those naughty kind! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />


Thank you all for being so kind and I mean that with my whole heart. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
I never wanted to leave, I'm just used to running from pain.

To: Morbo, Barta, Luc, Cleg, Seth, and Womble...Hugs to you all.

Thank you


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