Larian Studios Forums General Chat Chat (Anything) The PC "Help" Thread

So, basiclly, I don't really have to worry about viruses? Cos as soon as it's detected, I can get rid of it? Sweet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />! Don't think I have any spyware, scanning right now... Stupid error mesage. That patch you gave me to get rid of DSO might have been nice enought, but those errors I keep getting now sure it irritateing... No immediate threats <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. And I can't seem to find the advanced settings in Spybot... I have search and destroy, recovery, immunize, update and donate. Update doesn't work, it keeps getting bad checksum. Is this bad? Maybe I should reinstall spybot (uninstall, download and install). That was a question by the way.

Übereil

@ The divine

Common things that will cause windows installation to crash...

Memory
If you have 2 modules in, try either swopping them around with each other, or removing 1 and install windows. very often small memory differences can cause HUGE errors, when windows is loaded, it has its own parity checking built in, but not during the installation

IDE cable.
Try pluggin in a different IDE cable, or plugging the IDE calbe onto another port. an IDE cable can have a break on it, too small to cause a detection error, but intermittent enough to cause corruption on an installation.

Hard drive
It may also be that the hard drive is faulty / overheating. While copying the files, feel on the smooth side (not the pc board side) if its getting very hot.

CPU overheating
as soon as it crashes, reboot and check the CPU temp in the bios... anything over 70 Celcius can cause errors.

hope this helps.

There is a new version of spybot available... one with the DSO fix AND no erors <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

spybot 1.4

IT has a couple of nice new features too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

If you click on the MODE menu, you can chose Advanced.

then the tools menu will be bottom left

Thanks, I'll download it soon.

Downloaded and done, but now I'm worried. I can't update it (Spybot), I get bad checksum whatever I try.

I can't see any wird files. But then again, I'm not the most perceptive guy. Ad how do I turn the teatimer on? Weird things I can see is a HK_LM:run (whatdoes that mean by the way?) called PtiuPbmd. No idea what it is, but how am i supposed to know all programs in a computer that is supposed to start when windows starts (with you it's a totally different matter <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />), and a UserFaultCheck (sounds less likelly to be problems than the first one).

Übereil

Anyone got a solution to this irriation...

When Shutdown is selected the PC takes 5 minutes to actually close everything and start to shutdown.

Then, it doesn't shutdown, it restarts itself instead!

The only way I found to shutdown is to not login on the restart, and then select shutdown from the login box.

It's a pain in the butt! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />

There's some stuff in the task manager processes section that I don't recall ever seeing before:

cbrhr57.exe
cnrht45.exe

They CAN'T be closed - tells me they are being used, so can't close them.

Now, they AREN'T the right names of the processes, will have to go home to find them out, but they are very similar to those names, so that might spark recognition for someone.

My own suspicion is they are CD burner drivers - but I never installed any new burner software in over 2 years.

Die evil processes DIE!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />

No spyware or anti-virus gunk has detected anything naughty!

Where you found those startup entries , on the right of them, there is a bar (similar to a scroll bar), if you click on it, it will give you a description of what that entry does....

HM_Run is just where in the registry its loading... dont worry bout that....

as for the PtiuPbmd "Used by Promise Controllers to tell the drivers that the connected Drives should use the \"Write Back\" Caching. You can disable this if you don\'t want to use \"Write Back\" Caching or if you have ot connected any driver to your Promise Controller." so its fairly normal....

it might also be that you just go to the "wrong" places all the time <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> or if you have java installed, that you dont have any security control over java (IE is like that), for firefox you can get a extension that blocks java scripts unless you tell it to allow it.

If you are not sure what a startup item is, go to http://startup.iamnotageek.com/ and type in the file name there... it has a fairly HUGE database.

@plow

Here is a proggy that can FORCE those processes to die

End it all 2

I didnt find any info on either of those names, but then you mentioned they not the right names...

if you run endit all before you shut down, it should make a difference... you can slowly work your way closer to the culprit process... when you find it, you can then take it out of your startup list (you can do this either through spybot's startup manager, or by typing MSCONFIG in the run menu.)

SPybot's startup mangager is just more userfriendly than the MSconfig... but they both do the same thing.

Still, there's gotta be something I can do about it, even though I go to the wrong places once in a while (as said, I got viruses when checking for lyrics...), but in between I still have problems.



Sounds interesting, how to do it?

And I still can't update Spybot... I can't even check for problems now, I NEED those updates! Can I doit manually somehow?

Übereil

Edit: allredy downloaded manually. And by that prove that I'm not ENTIRELLY dependent on you guys <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />... The other updateswould e nice though...

Second edit: Problem solved! At least the update. After downloading the new detectionrules, I checked and found some spyware, which I removed, and now I can update again <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />. Exept immunization data...

And how DO I turn TeaTimer on? Can't seem to find it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />...

sorry i forgot to post an answer to the checksums

When you check for updates, next to the download updates button (to the left) you can select where to download them from... just select another one.... it should work fine.

The extension is called Noscript 1.1.3



Download it here

With that installed, you can chose which sites to allow (safe) and which ones to block. (it has a S icon at the bottom in the satus bar)

That's not the fastest of sites... Thanks for the link anyway. If you can just fix my immunization update I'll be really satisfied (for now. I think...) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

Übereil

Edit: Just reinstalled Firefox (had to use IE to download the files, because they were removed when I uninstalled Firefox <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />. Noticed that it was much faster downloadspeed. Hmm...). At least now I have firefox in Swedish. By the way, no matter where I download from, immunize gets bad checksum.

Second edit: Weird, now I managed to download the immunization scheme... Oh well. Didn't seem to find something out of the ordinary (and I think I've downloaded that java protection patch, any way to check if I really have?). So, I'm going to bed now. Right after the song is over...

lowking, re your shutdown problem, read this thread.
one click shutdown

i have almost the same problem except no shutdown/startup mixup. takes almost 5 minutes to shutdown & this happened after my system did one of those windows auto-update. can't recall which one that did this but till now that is just the case.

cleg, i happen to use 1 button shutdown. maybe i need to edit the registry so it will kill all processes without waiting for responses when shutting down. warning: this move will also mean processes that are automatically killed off have no chance of saving their contents.

Thanks Lady Rain -

I tried a program that forced the 2 processes to shut down, but when I did, I couldn't access windows explorer.

What I'll do tonight is try and end one of them to see if I can have normal operation while one is down.

I found the file on that startup database. And it coincides with a folder I found on my harddrive that wasn't there a couple of weeks ago - when this problem started!

It's time to take out the trash...

@ plow

You can also kill the explorer process (even in task manager you can kill explorer) and then restart the process, that should restart it into a working state.

To start a new process from within taskmanager, you first have to make sure that explorer is killed in BOTH the application section and the process section. Then go to the application section and click on new task.... you can browse to c:\windows\explorer.exe

you can also check that they dont startup next time, by either disabling them in MS config / spybot and see if explorer still gives hassles without them loading in the first place....

you can also check what those files are for by searching their filenames on either http://startup.iamnotageek.com or at http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/

These 2 places should be able to give you a full description of what those files are there for (if anything useful) and if they cause more damage than their worth.... based on that you can either keep them or kill them permanently.

By the way, I also got no more correct checksums for Spybiot 1.3 . I'll try 1.4 instead.

I recently heard of a bug that causes thze "firewall of the NForce4-Chipset" to corrupt downloads. The file size remains the same, but the files are actually corrupted, as the checksum shows. This seems to be only with FTP and the firewall-driver of NVidia. Source : The german mag "c't". It's a serious, well recognized magazine here in Germany, so I consider this serious.


@Plowking : Have you already installed the "Process Explorer" from www.sysinternals.com ? With it you could see what programs are running in the foreground or in the background ...

That piece of random code should be shot and put out of it's memory. NEVER have I encountered such a bad piece of code. It is buggy and completely not stable. I disabled it after 5 minutes in the bios and used the 2nd ethernet port (marvell) on my MB.

hmm in regards to the update process with spybot, I had the same problems ... but I switched servers and the 1 located in Germany works without a glitch everytime <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Funny that, though, most of the US servers and the Australian server give me checksum problems .... maybe they have that firewal installed (read Morb's Post)

Mea:
The bad checksums can also be related to the amount of "jumps" the download does from the origin to the destination... (just to clarify, i refer to a jump as a change in transportation technology... either from cable to satelite or to optical fibre etc.... ) In most cases up to 9 jumps are normal... after that, you start increasing the integrity risk of the download.

"Giggles" 9 jumps from Oz, you have to be kidding most places take anywhere from 15 to 21 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" />

but aside from that yes thou art right M'lady ... as always and as Nero so pointedly pointed out I had forgotten that bit, thus maybe that alzwhatisname is kickin' in <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />