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a question to those who are Linux users: is it advisable to install Fedora on a very old PC? AMD K5 133MHz with 40MB RAM? probably use it as a server as that old system has low power consumption.


No, not Fedora Core x (x as a number). Use a small linux distribution instead: Damn Small Linux or an other older distribution, which require a not so powerful system. The problem is less system memory <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />


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thanks, Xan! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

so u mean the problem with using the older distro is that they don't support huge memory? or u are pointing to the fact that the computer i mentioned has very low memory?



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The problem is: newer versions use more memory or don't install a graphic interface like KDE, GNOME (this both need a lot memory to display a huge number of graphic gimmick) and use only the console, but this is geekish <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

If you have the chance to put memory into this system, then do it - 64 MB or 128 MB are better. I used a short time a similar system (Intel Pentium 133, 64 MB System Memory) with a Debian installed (only console).


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Vundo is doing the rounds again.... and its more nasty than ever....
it hides as a super hidden file... so even though your spyware removers can detect it in the startup lists... they cant remove it.... If you attempt to remove it and only do half a job (which is almost guaranteed) it kills your winsoc connection layers.... which means you now have NO internet connections.... and very little chance of fixing it without haveing internet....

before you even look if you have the vundo malware... download these 2 files (which you will need to remove and fix the damage...

Vundo Fix Utility

Run this utility... do a check and if you find any vundo - related files... remove them. After that, restart and run the utility again....

If you are sure they are all gone... make sure your internet (and email and download programs) work... If not... follow the steps below... and then run this utility to restore the original settings...

Winsock Repair Utility

Step 1. Delete the corrupted registry keys

1. Click Start, and then click Run.

2. In the Open box, type regedit, and then click OK.

3. In Registry Editor, locate the following keys, right-click each key, and then click Delete:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock2

4. When you are prompted to confirm the deletion, click Yes.

NOTE: Restart the computer after you delete the Winsock keys. Doing so causes the Windows XP operating system to create new shell entries for those two keys. If you do not restart the computer after you delete the Winsock keys, the next step does not work correctly.

Hope no one has this little bugget... but beware... its a nasty one....


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The problem is: newer versions use more memory or don't install a graphic interface like KDE, GNOME (this both need a lot memory to display a huge number of graphic gimmick) and use only the console, but this is geekish <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

If you have the chance to put memory into this system, then do it - 64 MB or 128 MB are better. I used a short time a similar system (Intel Pentium 133, 64 MB System Memory) with a Debian installed (only console).


thanks again, Xan. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> anyway, about Gnome or KDE, u cannot tone down the graphics to a minimum so at least u have some kind of GUI? so just console, huh? too bad, i guess.

is it possible if let's say i install linux with console only in that system then i access it by remote then control it from there? also with GUI to control it by remote? is that possible?

sorry for the silly questions.

@ Lady Rain & Al -> thanks for the heads-up. this thing looks very serious. i remember the first few minutes i got my system online (broadband) for the first time & without protection as i was about to download AVG Free Edition & Spybot S&D, i got this annoying little IEPeers sitting in the memory & choking the line. good thing i managed to download & update AVG & Spybot then obliterate that little bugger.



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thanks again, Xan. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> anyway, about Gnome or KDE, u cannot tone down the graphics to a minimum so at least u have some kind of GUI? so just console, huh? too bad, i guess.


Sorry, there is no way to do this <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

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is it possible if let's say i install linux with console only in that system then i access it by remote then control it from there? also with GUI to control it by remote? is that possible?


Yes and no.
If you run a server system (like a file-, mail- or printserver, router, firewall, ...) than is the answer yes. For many server programs you can find control programs with a remote graphic system - most a web interface.
If you run a desktop system, where you use programs for playing, writing, web surfing, than is the answer more no than yes. I don't know exactly but so far as I know the remote system must produce all the graphic output which a transfered to the local computer and will only shown on the local computer. The local computer is more or less than only a monitor.

I would give DSL (Damn Small Linux) a chance - it is small and need only few system memory. There could be the problem, that your system doesn't start from a cd drive but then you can use a floppy disc to boot (insert first the floppy disc which start booting and accessed later the cd drive).

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sorry for the silly questions.


There are no silly questions, normal ones for a mimigration way.


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You can go for more light weight window managers instead of Gnome or KDE, like blackbox(which I use).

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sorry for the silly questions.


There are no such thing as a silly question.... only silly mistakes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

(cant remember which big-shot said that)


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I am looking for a new virusscan/firewall combo for my xp machiene. Only virusscanner/firewall no spyware, parental , ... control.

As low a footprint as possible.

Mcaffee and Norton are out of the running because of footprint.

I'v been thinking about NOD and Kaspersky


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sorry for the silly questions.


There are no such thing as a silly question.... only silly mistakes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
(cant remember which big-shot said that)

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Mr Garrison in South Park said that there are no such thing as stupid question, only stupid people. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />

now i know better. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

@ Morbo -> not sure but i hear good things about NOD32 more than Kaspersky.

@ Xan -> thanks! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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I use Zonelabs firewall and AVG free antivirus.

Don't know if they drain resources too much or not, I dont pay attention to such things.

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Zone Alarm is pretty good IMHO so is Avast! for anti virus as the zonealarm anti virus aint too good <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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Had a weird experience today... When I woke up, I made my bed, pulled up the curtains, and then I turned my PC on and went downstairs to get dressed. When I came up my screen was... blinking. It displayed one screen for 0,1 seconds, then went black for about 1 second. And then it blinked again. I thought it had something to with me not starting correctlly, so I restarted (tried to do it by clicking my way on the screen, then gave up and did it manually). When I started my computer again, it did the same display (0,1 screen, 0,9 blackness). When I came to that cursed sceduled scandisc (which I still havn't fixed...) I pressed space in order to abort it... and screen went back to normal. In the lower right corner it said something about "analog display" (which I'd imagine an analog screen was permanently on...). Any ideas on what just happened?

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Cable connection to the monitor loose ?


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I've checked them all, and the problem still is there. It seems to be related to the monitor though, and has nothing to do with the computer itself.

Same problem now, allthough this time it won't solve itself (how could it work last time...).

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suspicioushly sounds like a vertical hold (in the monitor) that went bye bye....

Do you have another computer / laptop to plug into it to just check????

The reason why you should check, is that it may very well be the graphics card aswell.... if the monitor works on another computer, then check that the graphics card is seated properly / not overheating. (it only takes 5 seconds for a card to overheat, so it CAN happen on boot-up)



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Since the screen didn't work on my brother's computer, and since the power wire worked on my mother's computer, I guess there is some kind of glitch in the power socket on the monitor. I even have a nice theory why this happened, but the sollution is to check with the store where I bought it and bring my three-year-guarantee <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />.

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Ube, i may be reading your posts wrongly but if u can see the BIOS with no problem but when it comes to windows, the display problem starts, then that's very much software problem. remotely it can also be graphic card problem (very rare but might be some RAM chip problem).

if the problem starts even when u're in the BIOS screen, then it's a very good bet that the monitor has problem.

if it's still under warranty, better claim it fast. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />



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It doesn't work properlly even when the computer is turned off <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />. You can note the lamp on the screen blinking when it's turned on too, so it IS the screen <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />. And I have more than a year to collect on that warranty (unless they lied about the three years). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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