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or maybe I thought it was innovative because I was a newbie?


no i don't think so...

but industry in general probably can't be innovative for a very long time or at least can't be innovative in all fields, except in the beginning of its history.

I think it's quite cyclic... I think that for the 2-5 next years the innovations if real would be mainly technics. It means that except for margin exceptions stroies'interest would be sacrified, but what it would be after that, i really don't know.

what i say here is not concerning only game industry and it's also forcing an open door <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> but well i say it whatever...



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But, As my young self remembered a few years ago there was a board game phase. lots of board games came out on cd, chess checkers, risk, scrabble, ... but they didn't sell because it more fun to play person to person with an actual board game. most of them didn't even have a on-line function (what the only argument is to buy such a game otherwise a real game is more interesting).

now these FPS with all the violence is way over hyped. Well I do have to agree there is some real filth out there (postal, narc, the sims). But when you go to a lan parties it's not to play multilayer scrabble (we do that with a real board) but it's kind of hard to simulate a FPS in real life without a mess (paint ball paint is messy). So we use those game to transport us to an unfamiliar setting. I have to agree graphical candy with UT2003 we didn't play that at all. but UT2004 was great since it had isn't enough. we still play UT classic at the lan parties (I rock at UT) had real innovations (assault was back, onslaught ...). but UT is only fun when played with friends.

another example is rome total war. the graphics are great but personally I play best with the TBS facet of it.

It's kind of hard to see a RTS game that isn't based on destroying the other player.

So in to make things short. innovation is important and graphics can be used to improve those innovations (surprise when a monster jumps out of a shadow). Graffic for good graphics never worked or it has to be that the players who liked the first game wanted more and buy the second game (new levels & perhaps new graphics). Why buy NFSU2 if it's the same concept then NFSU not for the graphics but for the new levels.

Personally I miss the old platfom games mario 1,2,3 sonic...


Does any one know other pc games that aren't
FPS
RTS
sport
strategy
board games

only the last 3 can be accomplished without war/shooting violence


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Hmm *giggles inanely* hehe *blushes*

CRPG ?

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@ Mea -> trying to be cute, eh? .... well u succeeded. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

@ Kiya -> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/XmasJump.gif" alt="" /> somehow i knew heavy topic like this will draw u out from the dark part of the forum. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> welcome back!

@ Morbo -> i'm a gamer, i know there are many kinds of FPSes out there but it's frustrating (similar to Kiya & Alrik) that the ones dominating the industry in terms of production, advancement are all FPS-centric. whatever happened to other genres? only eastern european developers so far are the most daring ones & sadly always under the radar of gamers. if only there is a magazine that caters to indie developers.

check out Game Tunnel for some very innovative games without violence or war which are very very smart in gameplay. furthermore they're developed by indie developers.

maybe not all is lost?



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Reading this "Column" (means Opinion-Article) about the Closing of Ion Storm, I came to these interesting articles :

http://www.gamedev.net/columns/events/coverage/static_feature57.asp

http://crystaltips.typepad.com/wonderland/2005/03/burn_the_house_.html

Another interesting Column is this one :

http://halflife.ingame.de/article.php?intID=1814&intTemplate=69&intSite=13

Discussion about it : http://forum.sacred-game.com/showthread.php?t=36529

Alrik.


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