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Alrik~ - I do not speak German, to my shame, but I know the quote you sign with by Einstein - cheers.


From the fact that you have relatively few top say about me I deduce that you cannot see through me or are even irritated by me.

That's what I want.


I'm currently working on a thought-model (a Theory, to be exact), that says that EVERY action / reaction gives the possibility to deduce from it to the thought-patterns of the person which outworked that action/reaction.

For example, following this theory, I might be able to deduce from sentences/formulations towards the thought-pattern that created these sentences - on a logical basis. There are still a *lot* of variables, but given a certain arrangement of logical operators, a certain development towards the given sentence/formulation should be deducable.

For example : If I write "I like chocolate", you can not only deduce that I like chocolate, but you can also deduce that I'm interested in giving away my opinion about chocolate. Goind a bit further on, you can also pose the assumption that my self-confidence is high enough to say what I actually like - chocolate - and not to care about what people say about chocolate.

This in-depths analysis could be used to deduce thought-patterns from posts, I suppose. I'm working on it, but don't know how far I might succeed.

On the other hand, it is - according to that theory - possible to distrurb thought-patterns trying to deduce the thought-patterns of a poster by explicitely posting sentences/formulations which make it more difficult to judge/estimate a poster. That's what I did.

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this is really the most shocking thing i have ever read recently.

this makes me wonder if i have ever been a victim all these while without knowing it? may i ask; has anyone heard of anything about me that is really bad - please let me know as i am getting more & more worried about all these.

@ Kiya -> all these while, i thought Seth has been one of your closest online friend. i am sorry to hear about this. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

@ Viper -> be at ease now that u see who your real friend is. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

@ Lynn -> thanks for letting this thread run its course & have events unfold as they should.

@ Seth -> u have a lot to answer for, my friend. please, if u are an honest man as i thought & hope u are, come forward. who & what are u? are u going to contest or counter Kiya's thoughts on this?

@ all ladies of the forum -> what Kiya highlighted is something very serious. i hope all of u will come together (make sure they're real females) to help & protect one another from now on.

@ Barta -> since u are the president, will u lead the ladies of the forum?

@ everyone -> i feel a panic attack coming. if u don't see me around in a few days time, hope u will understand.

please take care, everyone.



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@Janggut: I haven't heard anything about you.... afaik you are a well respected member here.. at least on my account.


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this makes me feel happy about not having an envelope nex to main index every day.

I kinda feel blind for not seeing there were such things going along, didn't hae a clue something was wrong.


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@ Kiya....yeah thanks for making me realize that I was being a tard back in the day when this version of the forum had just started...spam is bad...but at least then Lews came and made everybody forget about me! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />

@ Lowkey...man I wasnt threatening you...because lets face it this is a freaking forum and I dont have any control over it what could I do except be really annoying and I dont really like being that guy. No it was just a friendly warning that you are attacking a longtime well liked member...maybe unintentionally but either way...second...keep your weak attempt at giving me some psycoanalysis to yourself...I can think of about two people on this forum that know me at all and one is an MIA pirate!

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Could someone bring me a bucket? I need to empty my stomach.

I am not an active meber in here anymore too. But I knew what I was saying when I said Kiya = Dragon = A wise person.
I am glad that someone that I think of very high, had the same opinion with me and talked about such things openly. It was about time.
I am sorry I do not want to discuss it further though. As most of you probably know (by contacting with me during that period I am away -thanks for the friendship by the way-), I am in a state of mind this period that does not permit me to involve in such things. And to be honest, there are so many things that I want to say but I am afraid that if I do this forum will blow up. I need some time to think about the recent events and decide what to do.
There are though some things that I am certain of and they are going to remain such whatever happens :

A. When I count a person as a friend -and I do that only by my own judgment- I do not listen to whatever other people say about him/her. Thank Gods I am old enough and I think that there are some remains of brain in my head to decide by myself.

B. When I joined this forum I said several times that I took this decision because I saw how nice are with each other the forum members. Now, after almost 2 years in here, I realise that in some cases there is this kindness between members that reaches only surface. Underground a lot of things happen. Or should I say [nocando]? (Mind my language).

C. There are certain people I met here that make me feel glad that I joined at the first place. People with extremely nice minds, good heart, beautiful people who I wish to keep contact for the rest of my life and make me pray to have the strength to be there for them whenever they need me. Virtually or RL does not matter. For that I think it was worth it. However with those people I can keep contact via mail or e-mail as I do the past few months. Friendship is not infected by the environment or the way of comunication.

And one last request to the old forum members :
I have met Lowkey in an other forum and I think that he is a nice person. Please people, consider, Lowkey is not this forum's problem. Someone else is.
Sometimes I dont understand him either (Luc laughs), his English are very difficult for me but trust me on this one will you? Give him a chance to get to know him. Dont let the dark age some people wanted to bring in this forum, rule.

Side note : Sometimes things happen that I do not quite understand. Is it perhaps I become from a different culture? Or is it because I am the person I am? Really I do not know. I wish sometimes people could explain to me why some things happen. And sometimes I think that it is better that I do not understand...
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you can have my everything...

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*gives Luc a bucket*

*equips himself with cleaning tools*

When everythings over, I'll clean up ... at least someone must do it ...



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Well said Luc...good to see you BTW

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It is good to see you back too Nero <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />


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I don't use PM's that often, and don't engage in personal problem discussions in them. Its not that I dont trust anyone here, I simply dont feel the need, and after reading this I'm quite glad that I don't.

But when 2 people agree to converse with one another on a personal level between themselves it should stay that way. When someone betrays that, and starts telling others lies (or even truths they should keep to themselves) to others for manipulative purposes, then they should be named.

Naming two-faced people who are causing problems will help protect the others who may be unaware of someones underhanded dealings, protecting both new and old users of the forum. And making the people in question cop the hell on to themselves. They think it's fun because they cant be physically reached, or they could change their name, or just move on - smug in their having achieved causing a rift.

This kind of behaviour really makes me mad, and I'm not even one involved...so I can only imaging the wealth of anger for you Viper, or anyone else a victim of some two-faced $£%@"$!

Oh, and great to see you're back around for a bit Luc... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif" alt="" />

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I wonder some PM's contained irregulary the word "Gollem!"?


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you know, I've read all the reactions now, and I'm lauging by myself becaus.... the only person TOTALLY absent in THIS thread, but VERY active in others (and he complains about people not participating in serious threads btw) is SETHARMON himself...

how cowardly, not even coming out


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you know, I've read all the reactions now, and I'm lauging by myself becaus.... the only person TOTALLY absent in THIS thread, but VERY active in others (and he complains about people not participating in serious threads btw) is SETHARMON himself...

how cowardly, not even coming out


Yeah, now that you know, and think of it, he never replied on this kind of topics (I've checked <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />). When you brought it up in the news, he was talking about everything BUT gossips...

And we're ALL eager to hear his reply. How can he possiblly defend himself from this? (Oh, and it'll get whorse for him, there are OTHERS too <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/evilgrin1.gif" alt="" />.)

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When you brought it up in the news, he was talking about everything BUT gossips...


When you check it, you might fimnd out that I tend to do the same. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

It is my method to try to calm down things before they escalate. I don't want war.


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War
What is it good for
Absolutely nothing
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What is it good for
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B. When I joined this forum I said several times that I took this decision because I saw how nice are with each other the forum members. Now, after almost 2 years in here, I realise that in some cases there is this kindness between members that reaches only surface. Underground a lot of things happen. Or should I say [nocando]? (Mind my language).

Well said Luc, well said. That's the reason I left this forum twice. I have seen several times a situation when: today a person is very nice and kind with you and,... tomorrow, he/she just ignores you as you are absent. Then you start to question yourself, was that kindness real or just an illusion. Or maybe be you are that rude or dumb people are stopping to speak with you.

As they say... - Just my two cents. I had to let it go and now can go back into shadows.

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PS War is good for making everyone listen to you.


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I never heard about this gossips in the german forum part. I hope it won´t swap over.
I can only say for me, i never played with the emotions of any humans here. I was sad, ´cause Kiye left without an info. We PMed sometimes, and she cut of this without any chance for me to ask: Why !
No chance to reach her anymore. Sad but true.

I don´t care if anybody tries to feed the forum with lies about me. I know whom i can trust, few members here i have more contact with i can trust, the others: Who knows ? But who cares ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I can only say poor guy that has to do this !

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I have already said everything i think about gossips and lies in 2 other topics : "Forum news" and "About lies".
I will not bother the people by repeating the same things.

I just want to say that i have a lot of admiration for Kiya who had the courage to tell everything in a public post.
I would never had this courage.
I am also happy to see that nobody tried to begin a war in this topic.
I hope that Viper's friend will be back soon.

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Allthought my hands are shaking and my knees are weak, I have decided to follow Kiya's brave example and to tell you the truth to you all.
I have talked to several members that I considered my friends. You all helped me to decide what I should do, you said it was better to drop this subject, but then I contacted Kiya. We started to talk and and I found out what I already knew.
Setharmon used to be a helpfull guy, he build that image so that no one would believe anyone of us if we talked. I even defended him in the "Pope" thread. Johannes Paulus II, just because I thought he was right and we get along very well.
Now, we started to exchange msn and we talked. Not that often, because I didn't trust him enough, maybe three times or so, but the last time we spoke, he told me that he got several pm's with complaints from other members. According to these pm's I was too silly on forum, almost pathetic and I should participate to more serious topics. First I was very shocked, sad and angry. I thought I was ok, and that most of you liked me the way I was.
So, I started to write pm's and asking very carefully what they thought of me. When someone asked me why I wanted to know that, I never mentioned any names because I thought Setharmon was very respected here on forum.
I was thinking of letting it go, and just not tell anyone, but I knew if I didn't do anything to stop this things could get out of control. When I heard that Kiya had been throught the same, and another friend has suffered also by his doing, I wanted to take actions. Kiya gave me permission to send out her pm to everyone who was involved or must been warned. I knew that I couldn't do a thing all by myself, so I was glad with the help of a strong and mighty dragon as Kiya.
I would be honored if Barta would lead us, ladies. But maybe Kiya would be a better leader since she has gone throught this already.
And with this, I want to openly apologise to Barta for my behavior last on the "Pope" thread. I hope you are not mad at me for that anymore.

I also wanted to say, that allthough I intended to leave this forum, that I'm glad that I did some investigations and that I found out the truth.

Setharmon, as you might have noticed, I'm not the weak, lonely or naieve girl that you maybe thought I was. You can't play with me like you did with all the other girls. I'm not afraid of you, even not after your treat to hack into my computer. Your reign over this forum is finished.

@ Kiya
Thank you, it was very brave to come out with the truth.
Thanks to all my friends that I talked to, for believing in me and giving me the time to investigate the matter. Thank you for your trust in me.
@ Lynn
Thank you for not shutting this thread down, I'm glad we got the chance to talk about this.
To all the members that I didn't contacted throught pm, don't be mad at me for that. I didn't know who to talk to and I also didn't wanna put a burden on your shoulders, like it has been on mine for the last few weeks.

I also want to say, if you have any questions at all, send me a pm. I will try to answer them as soon as possible.



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