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Well, just to pour more fuel on this fire, I'd say a lot of you are confused as to the difference between a system of government and an economic system.
Correct me if i am wrong, but:
>>>>and yes, on paper communism looks great. but the world isn't a hypothetical place. communism is idealistic, where as capitialism is realistic.<<<<
uh, communism is a system of government, while capitalism is an economic system. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
The U.S. is not a "Capitalist" it is a Republic (tho some have referred to it incorrectly as a Democracy), whith an economic system based on capitalism (tho there are plenty of exceptions to that - think social security and medicare).
You could compare communism and democracy, that would work. However, it is correct to say that the world is not a hypothetical place, nor is it an ideal place, and so neither actually exist as a system of state government anywhere in the world. Most countries that label themselves "communist" are closer to dictatorships, and most that label themselves "democracies" are usually republics of one kind or another, and all are usually an amalgam of several different types of government. pure forms of government only work on paper, no matter what they are.
Challenge this statement: Systems of government are mostly formed by those who have gained power in order to maintain it, and are thus fairly flexible in order to deal with changing sources of power. To label one country or another as having a specific form of government is to greatly oversimplify how that country came to be, and its evolution over time.
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SPOOOOON!!!
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who can tell what a person will know... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
i've picked up a few things in my 22 years in this state. can i move now? if you don't know how to drive you can join me in virginia. no one here knows how to drive. well, no one who is native to this place does.
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NO!! please stay <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
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nobody can drive here either. especially in winter.
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nobody can drive here either. especially in winter. this places shuts down even with just a little bit of snow. we had half an inch this year at one point and they delayed schools for two hours...
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are you serious?!?! we get two feet and they don't do a thing. well, except plow. but everybody goes about their normal business.
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same here in Belgium... if it snows <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" />
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yeah, that's the way it was back home in new york. if we got three feet of snow overnight they wouldn't delay school unless they had problems getting the busses running.
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Well, just to pour more fuel on this fire, I'd say a lot of you are confused as to the difference between a system of government and an economic system.
Correct me if i am wrong, but:
>>>>and yes, on paper communism looks great. but the world isn't a hypothetical place. communism is idealistic, where as capitialism is realistic.<<<<
uh, communism is a system of government, while capitalism is an economic system. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
The U.S. is not a "Capitalist" it is a Republic (tho some have referred to it incorrectly as a Democracy), whith an economic system based on capitalism (tho there are plenty of exceptions to that - think social security and medicare).
You could compare communism and democracy, that would work. However, it is correct to say that the world is not a hypothetical place, nor is it an ideal place, and so neither actually exist as a system of state government anywhere in the world. Most countries that label themselves "communist" are closer to dictatorships, and most that label themselves "democracies" are usually republics of one kind or another, and all are usually an amalgam of several different types of government. pure forms of government only work on paper, no matter what they are.
Challenge this statement: Systems of government are mostly formed by those who have gained power in order to maintain it, and are thus fairly flexible in order to deal with changing sources of power. To label one country or another as having a specific form of government is to greatly oversimplify how that country came to be, and its evolution over time.
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Very good points S_T, allthough everybody (myself included unfortunately) seems to have gone a little <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />now. I often wonder if the UK is a republic or not as the queen has no power now. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/think.gif" alt="" /> Ah, the bombs are flying, people are dying.....
" Road rage, air rage. Why should I be forced to divide my rage into seperate categories? To me, it's just one big, all-around, everyday rage. I don't have time for distinctions. I'm too busy screaming at people. " -George Carlin
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anybody want to move into a cave somewhere deep in canada with me?
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Still searching for gold? Didn't catch a leprechaun?
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hiding from the world....
and yeah, that stuff too.
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Canada's too bloody cold Faile! (especially in a nuclear winter) How about a nice island somewhere in the pacific?
" Road rage, air rage. Why should I be forced to divide my rage into seperate categories? To me, it's just one big, all-around, everyday rage. I don't have time for distinctions. I'm too busy screaming at people. " -George Carlin
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I'm GO for ICELAND <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
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Do they have good beer there Viper? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
" Road rage, air rage. Why should I be forced to divide my rage into seperate categories? To me, it's just one big, all-around, everyday rage. I don't have time for distinctions. I'm too busy screaming at people. " -George Carlin
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I don't know but the country itself is B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L-L <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" />
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