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jvb #32747 21/03/03 03:58 PM
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yeah, well, it's still me.


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Can't see you very well there faile. Shitty weather for a march. I wish I didn't have to work so I could've gone down Mass. Ave. in Boston holding up traffic. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />


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yeah, it was all cold and rainy.
heres another good photo- the photographer said there was about a block of people behind him, too.
http://stu.aii.edu/~jto361/nice-crowd.jpg

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I think I recognised your nose...
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From the back? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" />


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It's stcking out a little. A pink spot on a black background.
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Oh yeah, now I see. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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i just got home from a school walkout, protest and march against the war. there were thousands of people marching with me. i was proud to be there, i was proud of everyone who was there and showed support, but i am also disgusted. i am disgusted that so many people can voice their opinion, and be so completly ignored by the man who is supposed to represent our country and our ideals.
the UN predicts 500,000 civilian s, 2,000,000 people left homeless, 10,000,000 without enough to eat, 18,000,000 without clean water, and over 1,000,000 children at risk of by malnutrition in iraq.

does this sound like liberation? to me, it sounds like . bush is the ist.


there are more than a few thousand people living in america. there are over 250 million americans.

the few thousand people you walked with does not represent the entire country. bush isn't going to war on his own with no support from america. there are tons of people who support bush's war.

as for these numbers released by the UN, they are merely speculation and guesses. you can't predict the number of war casulaties anymore than you can predict what the score of the Superbowl will be. you can state what you think it will be, but it is, after all, simply a guess. So far they have a done a good job at keeping casualties down, and i expect them to continue.

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America is NOT the judge of the world, they have no right to attack Iraq. Bush is a warfreak, who fell on his head on his birth and kept bouncing.

Clinton was a sexmaniac
Bush a warmaniac

Can't you americans choose a NORMAL president?


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America is NOT the judge of the world, they have no right to attack Iraq. Bush is a warfreak, who fell on his head on his birth and kept bouncing.


America isn't attacking Iraq, the UN is which include more than america. Yes we americans make up the larger portion. I don't agree with his reasons for the war but I do agree with the war. Terrorism needs to be stopped(yes I know it won't be but it'll hamper it a lot). Take the specs someone stated then look at specs of how many un people will be killed/hurt/whatrever by Sadam and his people over the next few years. If they had specs on that maybe those someone posted wouldn't look so bad.

Why is it the minority that always cries out that they aren't being represented? hmmm...

most people here believe the war is neccessary because of television of september 11th and other such things. If the new reporters and such are lying to us shouldn't you be angry at them not those blindly following our leader(blindly??? hmmm guess I didn't see the sept 11th thing on tv or other such events)

Truelly I'm for the idea of stopping terrorism, if that what this war will do or not I have no clue I'm just a peon <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I'll let smarter and more important people decide what should be done and if it'll help. Hopefully not influenced by oil or green in any way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

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[color:"yellow"]phal [/color] you do know that bush is only doing this or the oil, don't you?


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Like I said I don't agree with his reason... A matter of fact I totally disagree with his last war, wasn't it just a cival war we interferred with(beecause of oil)? At least this time he rode upon a good reason <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> to get his war fix.


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your right about that.
only i dont understand a couple of things:
in england : 80% of the ppl are [color:"orange"] against [/color] the war. Still england helpes america.
Besides that, the war is going on without the permission of the UN.
quite a well organized democraty are we living in....


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80% against wow, sounds like a problem in england with their government.
UN against? I heard england and others were supporting so I thought it was a UN thingy...sorry I haven't had that much time to watch news since it started.
Is the UN really against it? Or just against his reasons? I have no clue who lives in bagdad, so can't judge wether it is right to target the city itself or not. If Sadam and his followers are the primary people then their methods are ok if not then... Like I said I believe in the war but not neccessarily the reasons he has or the methods he is using. I'd have to study up on all the intelligence reports to determine that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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its not that the UN is against it.
they just havent given permission yet.
yes it indeed is a problem in england.
some other stats:
of what 1 heard:
15 americans and 15 enlish ppl have died (more or less)
and only 1 iraq guy (and that was even a citizen)
quite a well organized war if i can tell <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/down.gif" alt="" />


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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" /> I heard that this morning rumors of helicopter accident killed most of them. They forgot to put gas in it or something <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> though they can't confirm or deny whether it was under attack at time. I doubt though after all that bombing we killed no iraq people yet, just haven't got confirmation and you know the military about confirmation before reporting...

edited: Gas thing was meant as joke not part of rumor <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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your right there.
but admit it : the helicopter accident was stupid <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />


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In this matter almost no governement is beeing fair to its own poeple, cus the poeple don't want A war cus lot's of poeple in iraq will suffer, I have the impression some poeple see every iraqi as a terrorist this is so wrong. The governements of those countries handle in profit of their country cus defeated Iraq will do good to our ecenomics the oil etc.. If money comes to it, war always happens even if the mayority is against.

And I tought those planes where done by Afgahni terrorist not Iraqis, this is a other matter concerning Iraq's weaponory, and I guess they have a lot, a huge lot more than some Sumut rockets and that's going to hurt, both Iraqis and Americans. Iraq is no Afghanistan that can be easily beaten. Remember Vietnam?


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Yep it was <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />, I wonder what happened, anything new since this morning? I have been at work so... Machinery does wear down over time so it could of simply been its time, or pilotes error(how often do they get to test it in a real situation?) I was in NG so I guess I can use that as a comparison very well, but our vehicles were in poor shape and we were a front line tpye of company(though I wasn't a grunt, I was THE commo guy). During the two week summer thing we had at least 6 vehicles each time not make it(consider that we was a "front line" machinic unit...)


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drag: good point, I didn't mean to point the sept 11th thing at them just using it as a "terrosist" thing. I feel we need a war against terrorists and Sadam is one of the big ones, though we shouldn't stop there. Terroists in general are hard to make awar against because they are all over not in one specific spot and any BIG terroist group like Sadam's is a nice target.

I don't see iraqians(errr whatever they are called) as all being terrorists, If 90% of people living in bagdad are innocent bystanders then I'm against his methods but if they aren't... I just really don't know the intelligence on that matter, I trust other people to take care of that. I'm just too lazy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />, one resason I don't vote is because I don't have the time or inkling to follow who did what and such so I don't vote. I'm too busy living my own life to study what cliton's sexual(err non-sexual according to him) relations are <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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