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Phalzyr #32767 21/03/03 08:39 PM
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you study Clinton?

Well I tought of Clinton as a horny man, I think of Bush as a idiot. So naturally I like Clinton more.


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if a bomb falls on holland im going over there and punch bush and saddam in theri faces <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


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Eh... ppl
Saddam himself has proven that Bush was right about invading Iraq.
The rockets he had fired upon that English camp prove that he was holding back information and weapons of massdistruction.
Even if it waren't scuds, they are still weapons that should have been destroyed after the gulfwar.

I'm worried that if the alied forces get closer and closer to Saddam we'll get to see an example of more discusting weapons (chemical ones) of massdistruction. Other weapons Saddam didn't told the jokers of the UN about.

The war has started, and even though Bush does it for the wrong reasons, complaining about it now and protesting against it is like pulling the tail of a mad bull and asking if it could run the other way, please.

Now that it started I hope it ends soon. And that ppl in Iraq will finaly be free.

It's so funny to see ppl protesting and talking about the ppl in Iraq who will die. While they never raised their voices when Saddam was slaughtering 1000's of ppl.
Less ppl will die in this war than if they would have let Saddam go on.
Just like in the gulfwar, ppl in Iraq will turn against Saddam as soon as they are free of his control.

It's fun, eh? Protesting against everything. Becouse your neighbour does it, becouse it's cool, becouse it's in...
Just remember that you can protest here, while in a country like Iraq you would have been sloughtered... if you are lucky.



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Has America, Brittain destroyed all there weapon after the Gulfwar?
America is as dangerous as Iraq, let's say the USA and Europe get into fighting eachother, who will have the most firepower and weapons of mass destruction.

Why would Saddam destroy all those weapons, if they do they would have been easy pray, not only for the USA.

But who will succeed Saddam if he's done/killed whatever. What happens the $$$ and oil etc.

Who sais the USA wouldn't screw up again?

WAR is not the answer, you don't have to war to get rid of Saddam, It's merely one person. He can hide as much as he wants but who is afraid of a hiding chickenshit? I agree Saddam should go but this could have been done more peacefull a long time ago.


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ok. listen. i am protesting this war because it is hypocritical, they are fighting for the wrong reasons and lying to everyone about why they are attacking.

yes, saddam killed alot of people, and he is a bad man. but, he killed these people back when america was allied with iraq, and giving them 3-4 billion dollars a year as a gift. if we thought he was so evil, than we would have done something then.
yes, saddam has weapons of mass destruction. so remind me again, what are we dropping on iraq right now? if iraq doesn't get bombs, then neither should we. or anyone. period.
bush is only invading because 1- he wants iraq's oil. 2- iraq is the first step in conrolling the middle east.

it's not about liberating iraq. it's not about saddam.


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by the way, it's illegal to attack when you have not been attacked yourself. america has not been attacked.


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dragh and faile are right.

and besides that:
i dont see the logic in bush ideas:

he thinks that war is neccecearly to get peace :S
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- the USA and the UK waren't supposed to destoy their weapons after the gulfwar. Saddam was.
- war isn't the answer. It's the beginning (hopefully).
You don't have to go to war to get rit of Saddam? You think he was going to leave quietly and frendly? You think he would do that after he been laughing in the face of the UN for the last 12 years? You think for a moment that he would give up his life of luxery and doing whatever he pleases?
You think for a moment that he cares about what you and I think? You think he cares about what happens to the ppl of Iraq?
... wishfull thinking...



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do you really think bush cares?


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@faile,
You're right ofcourse.
But do you think Saddam would leave?

And America hasn't been attacked? How soon you forget about 9/11... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />

ppl... There is no good in this.
so instead of increasing it and making it harder on ourselves... why not go for the easyest solution and try to give the ppl of Iraq a world they can live in once Saddam is gone and once this war is over?


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if one country should disarm, all other should do the same, Iraq has the right to defend itself. Control over Iraq that is what it's all about Iraq may not seem rich but it's worth a lot. And the Iraqis should get rid of Saddam themselfes if they really want to have a better life, war is for sure not going to make their lives better.


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do you really think bush cares?

Sure he does.
He cares about the $$$ he makes. And about the $$$ he ows to the chemical and weapon companies who made him president of the USA. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


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And America hasn't been attacked? How soon you forget about 9/11... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />



um, that was osama bin laden. he's in afghanistan. there is absolutely no link between 9-11 and iraq.


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who the [nocando] is alice <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />


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if one country should disarm, all other should do the same, Iraq has the right to defend itself. Control over Iraq that is what it's all about Iraq may not seem rich but it's worth a lot. And the Iraqis should get rid of Saddam themselfes if they really want to have a better life, war is for sure not going to make their lives better.


Ah... And how should they get rit of Saddam? They have rocks and stones. He has special forces and VX gas.

War made or lives better! A lot even.


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And America hasn't been attacked? How soon you forget about 9/11... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />





um, that was osama bin laden. he's in afghanistan. there is absolutely no link between 9-11 and iraq.


ah... *grin*


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who the [nocando] is alice <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/offtopic.gif" alt="" />

The girl livin' nextdoor.
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I don't care if Sadam cares for us... I care for legitimacy: And the USA and their allies have started war without the UN-Mandate = illegal. We stoop down to his criminal level.

The USA is trying to certify this war by pointing out the Cease-Fire agreement from 1991 (or 1993)has been broken by Iraq.

As for Iraq weapons according to what I found: Old Scuds (USA estimation 12-40), old Al-Samoud-II-rockets (50 destroyed by UNO, estimated 20 left to be ready), old Russ. T 72 tanks, old Mirage F1 planes and a few MIG's.

I hope, the UN will NOT make this murder legal. It's a crime what happens there and shall remain a crime.
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Uhm Iraq does have weapons you know, the even produce the ak-47 kids in Iraq have A weapon.

Do you really think that war made our life better? what if Hitler never started a war? wouldn't be our lives even better? It could have made your life better, but ask your grand parents how much war made their lives better, the only good thing about those wars were that we learnt a lesson and technology has advanced in increased rate.


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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> Seth <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />
You speak for me - except I don't think Bush is money grubbing (sorry just my opinion <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />).

Oops and now I prepare to be in very big trouble - covers head and ducks!


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