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faile #32827 22/03/03 08:15 AM
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Damn, sorry to put so many posts up at once, but at least it makes them easier to find <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

hey seth, maybe you should think about why you mentioned that joining peace protests was the "in" thing to do to begin with. hhhhmmmmm? why isn't joining pro-war rallys the "in" thing to do in your mind? Freudian slip, perhaps?

I think your a closet peacnik <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />



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faile #32828 22/03/03 08:19 AM
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toejam- thats what i meant about china/tibet. sorry if i said it all jumbled. did you want links about clear channel? i'll look, post as soon as i find.


No prob. there are just a lot of folks participating that might not have known about the China/tibet thing.

yeah, links to articles on clear channel, and others discussing the corporate takeover of american media in the last 10 years would be good.

edit: nevermind <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

note that we all just learned something new from reviewing the original source of info: 60%, not 75%. a small distinction, perhaps, but important, nonetheless




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toe- see edited post above
edit: we need to stop posting at the same time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

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faile #32830 22/03/03 08:23 AM
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toe- see edited post above


kewl.

Say... is that offer to join you in a Canadian cave still open? I always enjoyed my visits to the great white north. Beauty, eh.



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offer stands. although maybe i will take whoever-it-was's suggestion and change it too a deserted tropical island.


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toejam- thats what i meant about china/tibet. sorry if i said it all jumbled. did you want links about clear channel? i'll look, post as soon as i find.

-- that was easy. also looks like i got my stat wrong- this says it's 60%, not 75%. still, it's too much. http://www.clearchannelsucks.org/
here's more:
http://www.corpwatch.org/issues/PID.jsp?articleid=4808
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_clearc.html


I think if we could find connections between Karl Rove and Clear Channel, that would be VERY interesting. Maybe even worthy of a post on Slashdot.



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offer stands. although maybe i will take whoever-it-was's suggestion and change it too a deserted tropical island.


There are over 2000 islands around French Polynesia. I wonder if the French would pay us to go to one? I'm game if they are!



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hell yeah. what country/state are you in, anyway?


faile #32835 22/03/03 08:40 AM
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check your PM.


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got it.
seriously, how could anybody exile this guy?
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he is the sweetest and most adorable guy ever. i just want to hug him.


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Wow, this is getting as bad as the Royal Dragons lair. Whats this thread about anyway? (Im lazy)


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big debate about the war and stuff.


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i'm sure i would have been protesting back then, but in 1988, when saddam gassed the kurds, (yes, it's really kurds in english <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />) i was only 8 years old. biggest worry i had was if my mom was going to bring home the right cereal this time.

and i kind of take offense at the assumption i protest because it's "in". thats simply not true. perhaps for some it is, but i truly feel that this war is being fought for the wrong reasons (meaning it's not being fought for the iraqi's liberation) and i think most of the people protesting feel the same as i do.
too many people are taken in by what the government and the mass media tell you.
http://www.indymedia.org
i strongly urge you to take a look at this site. down the column on the left side of the page you will find a link for whatever country or state you are in.



-eh... 1988?
That was just a test. Between 1988 and now ppl had 15 years to protest.
He's been doing it ever since. But our oil flow wasn't involved so media here didn't cared. Ppl here never complained. It ware only Kurds who got slaughtered and used as test objects for new weapons and toys for Saddam's son.
Same in Turkey. Why is no one protesting against that? Maybe becouse they act freindly towards the USA?
Maybe becouse they aplyed to become a member of the EC?
It's disgusting... the Turkish have been slaughtering Kurds constantly, just like Saddam did in Iraq. Now a guy who has been convicted of religious and racist crimes not so long ago is in charce of the country. They even created special elections for that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> Very nice indeed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
How the EC even dares to consider the membership of a country like that just proves that the EC doesn't care about human rights too.
Turkey already invaded Iraq too btw. To keep control of the Kurds and hide the crimes they committed. And that there are a few oil wells in the area that Turkey wants control of is a nice bonus. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> Talk about sticking your brother a knife in the back...we got the perfect example here.
-Every war has been faught becouse of the wrong reasons.
Politicians/leaders/... always had other motives than they claimed.
Except for WWII maybe. More and more studies show that Hitler really was insane. He blamed the jews for what happened to his family and Germany losing WWI. But that a whole world went to war over the insane ideas of one madman makes it even more scary.
-Internet is massmedia too, you know.
Don't believe everything you see/read/hear on the net.
Media is made by ppl. So personal opinions are involved.
No mather how much they claim to be neutral, you always put a little of yourself in a story.
And not only that. Massmedia needs to sell... and some ppl working there are no better than other ppl. So they write/broadcast what other ppl wanna hear to become popular. In the USA there's a media war going on between a few networks about who can show news from Iraq more fast than the others. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" /> So I wouldn't trust to much of the "news" you get from those networks.
And another note on that. Even the ones who do mean well also have to get their "news" somewhere.
And where do they have to get their info? Right. From the same ppl we're protesting against. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />
So it's all very relative.


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Hehe! Thanks faile. With posts that big Im not getting involved <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


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faile #32841 22/03/03 09:22 AM
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got it.
seriously, how could anybody exile this guy?
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he is the sweetest and most adorable guy ever. i just want to hug him.


LOL!

Yes, I actually had the priviledge of meeting him when I was a student at UC Santa Barbara. Very down-to-earth fellow, but somehow his words tended to make you listen to what he had to say. Very sad situation Tibet is in.


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Hehe! Thanks faile. With posts that big Im not getting involved <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />


no kidding. Seth's last post had far too much cheese for me to digest at one sitting. I'm worn out by it, so I will sleep and catch up with ya all later.

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I do hope the war is over soon.
It may not become another world war, which will end the world as we know it...
chemical weapons, anyone...eek
Mind you, i do not say that we all will die then, i just say that there are going to be big changed.

And if bush wins (and he will..) i wont look up supprisedly if hwe starts to think that he should be leader of the world "in order to achieve world pease"....
he makes me sad <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/disagree.gif" alt="" />


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not only you jvb, he makes everybody sad, except his bankaccount and his oil-mates


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Yes, I actually had the priviledge of meeting him when I was a student at UC Santa Barbara. Very down-to-earth fellow, but somehow his words tended to make you listen to what he had to say. Very sad situation Tibet is in.


wow, i'm jealous. i want to meet the dalai lama so bad! i'd love to have a chat with him.

story about a very naive individual- i have a friend who lived in thailand for about nine years, and is a buddhist. she is currently attending aveda, a hair styling/cosmetic/massage school, so naturally there are a few girls who are a little slow on the uptake. one of the girls found out my friend was a buddhist, and in an effort to be friendly and curious, asked my friend what percentage buddhist she was.


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% buddhist? LOL <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />


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