Larian Studios Forums Divinity 2 - Ego Draconis (English) Divinity 2 - Ego Draconis Ygerna's memory battle - I hate you!

Never has a fight in a game filled me with such rage and frustration. I'm dead two seconds after the battle starts from stun locks. My resists are all between 60 and 65%. I set the difficulty to low and they hit me just as hard.

Was it really necessary to ramp the difficulty up so far for the final fight? Did you feel it necessary to rape the players gaming experience with this game. I was enjoying the game up til that point.

Now I will be forced to find a working trainer just to beat the game and see the ending.

Please smack whoever designed and approved that final battle for being so hateful to the players.

If you have a saved game prior to entering Hall of Echoes reload it. Make sure you are lvl 34 at least.

If you are already lvl 34 then take the difficulty slider and put it on Low difficulty.

Immediately after the auto save after the cutscene jump, jump jump, around the columns until you get the AI of the enemies hung up on the throne or one of the columns to separate them. Pause, drink resist potion. Pause drink Str potion. Pause drink Int potion. Try to get the divine on his own and trounce him. Or get the divine away from the others and kill the followers first. Divine has a way of rush attacking you though so you may need to kill him first.

JUMP ATTACK him.

Pause and drink health potions even when you don't need them.

These guys at Larian just really must have had a hard time figuring out how to make a cool boss battle so they just made this one really cheap so players couldn't just wipe the floor with everyone at end game.

They need to play some games that have cool boss battle that actaully take TACTICS to beat and that are fun. This game doesn't have a clue on how to make the battles against the important villains stand out.

I was 33 when I got to this battle, and boy, I'm glad that the previous experience (where you're a dragon) forced me to level up more, because I would have never been able to survive at level 30. Even at 33 it was a tough battle that I had to reload often, but thankfully I used the same tactics I had developed before during the game and they saved my ass:

- IF you have a high enough level charm - charm the healer. Once charmed, he'll heal you until his buddies realize he's helping you and beat his brains in. That does two things: #1 - It kills their primary healer and prevents him from healing those you want to kill and #2 he'll heal you when you need it the most (at the start of the battle).

- Like Monkey said, drink potions so you have the extra layer of healing over time applied and hopefully you've got some resist potions (that raise your armor values)

- Don't forget the pause option, use it to drink potions or cast heal on yourself

- Summon your pet after you've got some cover, he will take some of the attention off you. Once he goes down, summon the demon if need be.

- Save the wizard for last

Dodge to side (they always put you right in the line of fire in the fights), pop your pet, let them surround you, firewall.

Then spend the next 4 minutes whacking on Zandalor (he heals to full over and over).

I wondering if your resist are referring to status resistance or armor rating. How much hp does you had at lvl34? And how much damage does divine and zandalor do on you ?

I am level 34 and even set to low difficulty I get stomped in seconds. I should not have to replay a huge chunk of the game to pick a spec that can beat the final fight. All specs should be able to survive that fight. This has made me regret buying this game.

I watched the ending on youtube. I'm not willing to subject myself to that fight any further.

And again I hope the designer of that fight gets a rash in a very inconvenient place!

I did it at level 35. Rolled to the left behind the pillar and shredded (thousandstrikes) the two paladins that got round. Then I just ran around the whole place avoiding the bosses. Mostly hunting those damn rangers 'cos their stun is truly lethal. Then summoners and healers. Avoid the enemies healing ability by using Fatality! Train it up. Same with the kings, fatality.

Of course, I did have my handy bottle of Allan Brew so...

So 'Deaden', you can read here, the final battle IS possible

Me too make it to the final ending and I'm, for sure, not a hardcore gamer!
And I haven't had that Allan Brew ...

Some people have finished the end battle in 14 seconds with a full mage.

I had no problems whatsoever with my level 34 ranger / warrior equipped with the Hunter bow. When the fight started I dodged behind the colums and fired exploding arrow a couple of times. That left me with the two main bosses. My pet and a summoned Ghost distracted Zandalor and I had my hands free to dance around and shoot exploding arrows now and then. Took ½ a minute or so.

(Exploding arrows are way overpowered. Killed Kali in 2 shots)

Its basically an easy battle even in high difficulty mode as long as you know how to equipped your character.

Exactly, but not everybody knows how to properly train and equip their character. For an instance, the first time I did the finally battle, I was a Warrior who didn't have any of the Warrior skills. I had the Healing Ghost maxed, the Dual Wield maxed and a lot of other Dragon Knighs skills. If only I had known better, that fight would've been really easy!
With a powerful mage it's cake.

I think the problem is everything up until this battle was a cakewalk, regardless of character spec. Potions? Pfft, only if you felt really pedantic. Armour sets from the flying fortress? Who needed them, basic legendary stuff got the job done. The game REALLY needed to amp the difficulty level up smoothly to this fight, actually make you think about what you kit and what you spec.

I really wish it had. I would have loved to immerse myself in the whole battle tower/runners/training deal, but I really didn't need to. Damnit! Great game, though, great game- totally ODed on it for a week. Bloody endgames in these euro RPGS always bite: RISEN was a disgrace, too.

That might well be, but then why blame the game?

I don't blame the game, I'm just saying I understand people who 'hate' this battle becuase they can't seem to win it.
On the other hand, if all the different Skills were a bit more balanced, inexperienced players wouldn't end up with a weak character.
The main reason my second character is as strong as it is, is because I took a good look around at the forum and learned what Skills are / can become very strong.

I actually prepare quite well for the final battle, as before this I think I read that the final battle is very tough. Need to hide here and there and bla bla bla.... I even make 100+ of rank 10 healing potions for in case of emergency. But hell when I finished the battle, it only took me less than 5 potions for it. I really cant believe that it was the final battle, and do a reload and set it to high difficulty mode. I was playing on medium difficulty at first. After numerous testing, the battle can be finish with the use of only 1 healing potion, without healing skills needed That why I keep wondering why so many always complain on how tough it is on the final battle.

Since I on my second play through now in difficulty mode, I will later try to enter the final battle at the lower level, which is around maybe lvl 32, 33 to see how challenging it can be.

I've played the game thru a few times now and this time I am going to try hiding in the shadows and see how it goes, I'll probably be lv33 then

Just to reply to myself: just occurred to me I think I found the game a cakewalk cos I had the special edition with the Rivellon gear- the hammer, the legs, the chest. The hammer in particular was way overpowered: 50 to 60 odd normal damage, 50 to 60 odd magic. Next play through, I'm binning the lot.

Anyway back on topic. And I say again: difficulty no ramp up properly, ending way off curve.

I posted this in the tips and tricks section-I am playing as a Ranger, with some of the Mage powers, and at lvl 34 after playing the final Battles I have figured out a pretty good setup to win; after you help close the rifts in Aleroth, go back to the battle tower and unlearn all skills, then Exploding Arrow’s 10, Magic Blast 12, Ranger Strength 10, Destruction 5, Summon Mastery 10, Reflect 5, Hide in Shadows 2, Summon Demon 10, Regenerate 2, Stun Arrows 3, you will need to pay your trainer for advanced training to get some of these levels, when you get to the Hall of Echoes you can get 5 more skill points by reading the minds of the Memory Eater that greets you, Marious, Sasson, Amdusius, and Ba’al , I used all of these for Mana Efficiency, after the fight in the arena and going to save Ygerna, make sure you have both summoned both your creature and demon before you enter the transporter, as for the final fight with the Divine, as soon as it started roll to the right and hit Hide in Shadows. Go to the other end of the room (I hid behind the right rear column looking from where you came in), waited till my creature was dead, then moved slightly away from the column and slightly right, as soon as I could target anyone in the room fire a exploding arrow and it killed most if not all of the other soldiers there, moved close to the column again and waited till Exploding arrows was recharged, the Divine was the first to come, hit him the magic blast, he’s dead, Hide in the Shadows again, waited for the magic blast was recharged, about the time the Hide in Shadows lasts, Zandalor was next, hit him with the magic Blast and the exploding arrow, that finished him, then the final movie, you can modify this as necessary, but it has enabled me to go back to my other saved games that I could not win and win them also, ENJOY

lol deaden I think u just need to rethink ur moves . it took me a couple of trys but i got it. only had to take 2 heal potions during the whole end game scene . I did take the time to mind read all I could to get skill / character pionts at the end I had all my stats dxt/str/int with potions up to 74 ish or a tad higher. My resist where all atleast 40 or higher .
If you rushed through the game I could def see where you are running into problems i did have to revert some saves .
Also after the autosave I would definitly say just to the side I tried head on attack but to much at once

lol i am lvl 30 and have only got the divin and zandala left lol i got up to this by letting 2 pets do all fighting while i hide lol i got no potions so it taken 2 hours get up to this lol by waiting for mana respawn

There is a skill book near the entrance, at the stairs leading to the main room. If you didn't get it already, that could give you some extra flexibility if you want to save and try different tactics (or at least help with mana, if you don't already have Mana Efficiency maxed). If you have a decent healing rate, or are safe when hiding, you could use Life Tap to boost your mana recovery.

I need help with a battle (Spoilers) Ygerna's memory

help im stuck in hall of echoes


Welcome to the forum.

I just finished this fight

I was also shocked. The first time the fight started, I was dead before I even drew my weapons. but!, It auto saved for me at the begining of the fight. So I could load that and get ready to maneuver quickly after firing off a Magic blast.

Now the Divines Rush attack does hit like a bus so I had to spam heal pots alot. I ran around and die many times (mainly to the Divine), But my I figured my Thousand strike skill cruified the Divine and I killed him with it pretty quick. (since I have a crit rate of 25 % I guess) level 11 Deathblows ftw .

Personally, you have to maneuver alot and Focus on taking out the Divine first. Pick off any loose soliders/Paladins who come your way.

I was level 35.

i found that putting 13 points into health leach made it where i didnt need any health pots at lvl 34...

That was a really tough fight. I just finished it today as a lvl 34 mage. After getting killed multiple times with two blows, I came up with this strategy as a mage: RUN!!! :P

I quickly jumped away, ran around the columns and casted a level 10 demon and a necro pet. My buddies made all of the enemies focus on them in the inner part of the room. Then I jumped right in the midst of the enemies while they were occupied and cast a level 13 firewall and repeatedly did a level 6 whirlwind. It took a few times.

Nice idea your strategy wildstar

Best fight in the whole game. Divine one if he had hit me twice I'd have been dead, THANKFULLY you can avoid attacks in this game. Either way when they grouped I could hit more then one of them at a time. (Got to love the dual wield warrior class)
Lot's of potions and lot's of hackng and slashing. But it can be done and when you do it, it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. But you QUITTERS wouldn't know

With high enough strength and enough points in Regenerate & Life leech, you don't even need to use any health potion in the ending fight.

This is very intresting!
Do you remember which level your hero was at the moment you do the final battle with points in Regenerate and Life Leech (how much points do you think are at least necessary?)?

I will try those two Skills for sure if I go for a hardcore challenge gamemode this time
All things may going wrong ... except my HP-value may NOT go down to zero

It was the first time I played the game, I think I was level 34 with 15 points in regenerate and 10 points in life leech. I also had a lot of points in Bleed, which is the best skill to kill enemies fastest. Basically I put everything in passive warrior skills.

My health regenerated so fast that it wasn't even funny.

See here

O thanks virumor, I have see your video ... and indeed, Regeneration go fast!
Maybe 15 points wasn't necessary ? ... I take max 5 a 10 points, I think.

I like passive skills and Bleed is a great one.

Did you have a skill point to regenerate in your armour or something??
I was 34 and could only get 11 points in regenerate...?
Hacker maybe?

It could have been 10 points in regenerate and 15 in life leech... it's a while ago.

hmm ... never had any problems in the last battle with my ranger build (difficulty hard) ... strategy was, dogging melee encounters and spamming the room with explosive arrows.

I am hoping for more balanced and epic boss and non-boss battles in FOV

Level 26.

I drank the best resist-all potion I had, summoned the demon and the creature, and proceeded to run around like a headless chicken, spamming Magic Missile, Magic Blast, and Fire Wall.

At about 15 second mark, a 2000+ XP gain informed me that I killed either the Divine or Zandalor, but since I didn't see it, I assume it was either the creature or the demon that did the deed. At 20 second mark, the other "boss" died, after which the surviving paladins were easy pickings. All the while I continued to heroically scurry about chugging potions, and screaming "NOT THE FACE OH MY GOD NOT MY PRETTY FACE PLEASE!!", I'm sure...

It wasn't difficult per se, it was chaotic and crazy and somewhat underwhelming, really. Definitely not epic.

While it is impressive you were able to succeed at such a low level, your strategy didn't really lend itself to being able to appreciate the combat. Even with more direct involvement, though, I still wouldn't call the final battle epic.


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Only level 26 ??? Great man !

How did you play the game?
Did you ignore quests, enemies or the XP-rewards after solving quests or ... in this game so you are just level 26 to the final battle?

Damar Stiehl, I'm very curious about this !

hi just thought id say i completed this today at level 32 after my 7th try with only 10 greater healing potions on normal difficulty, i felt pretty proud after reading alot of people struggled with this end battle even when there 2-3 levels higher =]

Your character build and playstyle can have a significant impact on combat, if you are moderately close to your opponents in level.


Welcome to the forum.

I beat the final battle but for my character it was too hard to be fun. I drank an extreme healing potion at the very beginning and cast a heal spell on myself. Between the two of them I had 5 seconds to put up a level 12 firewall and cast a level 13 fireball and a level 12 magic blast and a level 12 exploding arrow. then every 5 seconds i would drink another extreme health potion or when my mana was low drink one that restores that too. The battle soon was down to three characters and zandolor lasted the longest. I just barely squeaked by. I was so close to dying but I got him first. What a nightmare. I usually like playing these games through two or three times with different characters and different skill sets but I don't even want to see this game again.

Did you lower the difficulty, if you were not already playing on easy, use your creature, and a summon if available, get into the main room as quickly as possible so you were not standing in the hallway with everyone attacking you at once, keep moving, etc?

yes, I was on easy. I love my pet and my ghost but I did not have time to summon them. When I got time to summon them I did not have enough mana. I tried running around once and that bought me some time but I was killed anyway. I took my stand where I entered the room. Maybe I had the wrong strategy but I won. I wish I was a level 35. I was a level 34. I think I did every quest so it must have been too much mind reading. Thanks raze for answering so many of my posts. I could not have won the game without your help.

I played it again from the auto load and ran and jumped. I almost died but not quite. I accidently jumped on to one of the chandeliers and got hung up there for a little while and was able to hit divine from above and heal up before falling back down. I killed him first this time and ran to the center and was able to kill zandolar and the others a lot easier this time. This time it was fun.

Glad the second try for the last fight was enjoyable.

I'm not sure if mindreading makes a significant difference by the end of the game. I mindread a fair bit, and still reached level 36. There is a bit of leveling discussion half way down the topic Another..Hall of Echoes question.

Ugh, what a nightmare. I spent a few hours trying this battle over and over. Finally, success!

For me it was a jump to the left (and then a step to the right...) Nevermind.

Anyways, It took some doing, but if you get a creature out there, to draw attention, you can pick off each soldier, healer and mage one at a time. Maybe I cheated, but I'd kill one or two, then save, think about my tactics, kill another one or two, save, until I got them down to the Divine and Zandolor. After that, I had the ghost and my summoned creature. I took out the Divine first as his rush attack is a pain.

You have to keep moving, and stay away from the Divine's rush attacks. This is why I needed so many potions.

Was the battle hard - yes. I had to turn down the difficulty level, and I've NEVER done this in a game. I do think this fight was just a tad over the top. It should have been more difficult, but not near as impposible as this was.

Drac

Drac
I finished on hard
you need to keep jumping
belive me it works
and I save after ever 10-15 sec so

Basically, yeah - that's how I got through it...on EASY.

Lot of jumping, potion-using, Fireball using, Pet summoning (to do extra damage AND to use as a meat-shield to absorb LOTS of damage), and melee swinging.

Crazy battle.

I had lifeleach on my 33 warrior i think lvl 10 and magic blast and destruction maxed i didn't use many potions and i didn't have to roll because my life leach was to strong dual wield by the way

Hi,

following suggestions are only for Ego Draconis, neither for FoV nor DKS.

if you have only ego draconis installed the best way to survive the final battle is to (in case you are a battle mage-paladin combination):
upgrade your skill for 2-handed swords and take a good 2-hand sword (e.g. after the flying fortresses)
upgrade bleed to 10
upgrade fireball to max
upgrade potion efficiency to max
and upgrade the demon to 5-6
Before the battle started I had 29 skill points to spare, so I tried the best combination.
Summon the creature and the demon first, then attack with fireballs until the demon vanishes..
And keep running!

But I have to agree, after installing the addon the fight was almost impossible as the skill for 2-handed swords was almost worthless.
Also after installing the addon my creature was gone, I had to wait for a moment to get it activated again.

I had the Healing Ghost maxed, the Dual Wield maxed and a lot of other Dragon Knighs skills. If only I had known better, that fight would've been really easy!

I didnt have a problem at all. First I was on medium, and I beat it second try. Then I switched to hard and beat it after 5 or 6 times. I used summon demon level 7, explosive arrows 11, magic blast 10, destruction 10, reflect 10. and thats basically all I used. I just ran around jumping over people while my explosive arrows and magic blast would cool down, and fire them off whenever anyone was on my radar, then keep running and jumping, and drank potions. I was level 34, my stats were pretty even around 33 each or so. I didnt use any matched armor either.

One thing that might have helped me out was that I had high retribution aura enchantments on most of my gear.

I was level 35, I always spend all my stat point to int and then vit, I only spend my skill on fireball + firewall + whirlwind + summon demon also few at another skill

with noble set armor mixed with unthrings set(I meet bug on raze and xanlosh so can't get full uthrings armor set, yeah only have cuirass and helmet ) my hp is 900 and my mana is 400 full equip with mixed resistance level 9 (because if I make for level 10 then it need malachite but I don't want use my malachite)

play on normal, on DKS I didn't meet that difficult or really trouble for me, when start to battle, the enemy get their weapon while u should flee to another wall then summon your creature and then your demon...............I don't know maybe play as pure mage more easy than play as pure warrior

my strategy is just cast fireball + firewall and then whirlwind and then don't let your hero body endure their repeatedly attack, try to flee to another are after cast that spell

if I can give vote, I will vote fight berhlin + Ygerna more difficult on FOV than when you face Zandalor + Lucian + their paladin at Ygerna memory