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I think quick kills are more likely to get experience bombs, but I have no idea if there is a difference between conventional or magical attacks (though I would guess not). Between killing quickly and clearing out the Dark Forest at a low level, I think you have the best chance of getting experience bombs. When I was playing DD I never noticed getting one (but then I mostly only paid attention to the experience points from quests).
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But do I have kill them one way at first then switch to something easier like using lightning, or can I still get it if I always kill them the exact same way?
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AFAIK your chances are not effected by what attack method you use, or if you vary the type of attack.
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I think they do occur when you kill similar enemies at a quick pace, such as clearing the orc areas or sewers...I noticed that when I cleared out the west camp where the members of the Black Ring I would often get an exp bomb.
Last edited by SirChronos; 22/05/06 07:03 PM.
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Where does learning something useful play into it? Or does that just mean you managed to kill something fast? I can do that with a high damage weapon but it doesn't mean I had learned anything. It's more just luck that I have such a weapon.
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Aside from the extra experience points, you do not gain anything from an experience bomb.
The character's experience points are a measure of experience/knowledge/etc. If you defeat stronger monsters than yourself you get more experience than you would if you were the same level, while if you wait until you level up, you get less or no experience for the same creature. For a given opponent type and character level, you usually get a certain amount of experience.
In purely conceptual terms (not connected to anything in the game), if your character notices something during a fight or does something that works better than expected, they would learn more from that fight than with a similar opponent. This is not a huge revelation (like learning a new skill or getting stat points) but simply a larger amount of experience than other fights (increased experience points). The learning from your original quote is referring a conceptual explanation of an experience point bonus, not something your character actually gets.
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The experience bomb is being explained as the result of learning something particulary useful in a fight, e.g. a new trick which you hadn't thought of before. Could someone elaborate on what these useful tricks are? Do you just need to kill something in a different way than you had been or do you need to do something specific? If it's specific what needs to be done? No, I don't know. Maybe it's incorporated into the game mechanics like an extraordinary dice roll : Hitting the 1 three times means something extraordinary -> experience bomb. It's just a suggestion, merely speculation, nothing else. We've never been told how it actually works, except this archived discussion.
When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it. --Dilbert cartoon
"Interplay.some zombiefied unlife thing going on there" - skavenhorde at RPGWatch
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if your character notices something during a fight or does something that works better than expected, they would learn more from that fight than with a similar opponent. So it's something the character learned, not the player? That's what was confusing me. I thought I had to learn something.
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Well this is a role playing game, isn't it ? In most role playing games the character learns something, not the player !
When you find a big kettle of crazy, it's best not to stir it. --Dilbert cartoon
"Interplay.some zombiefied unlife thing going on there" - skavenhorde at RPGWatch
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Well this is a role playing game, isn't it ? In most role playing games the character learns something, not the player ! Depends on how far you drive the identification process <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Seriously though, you're right: of course it's the character that has the learning to do. My personal sword skill has not risen after playing Divine Divinity and I've tried a thousand times, but I just can't get corpses to raise. (And now I've banned from the local graveyard <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />)
I am in blood Stepp'd in so far, that, should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o'er.
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The experience bomb is being explained as the result of learning something particulary useful in a fight, e.g. a new trick which you hadn't thought of before. Where it says "a new trick which you hadn't thought of before" it doesn't specify you the player or you the character. I thought it was something I had to do. In most role playing games the character learns something, not the player ! The first time playing it I wouldn't know about Marked Ones or Divine Ones, about the Sword of Lies or the Black Ring. I learned about these things as the character does. Playing it again I wouldn't be able to tell Zandelor what happened to the Sword of Lies until the character looks and sees it for himself. However in a fight the character doesn't decide on his own to use lightning against creatures with low resistance to it. That's something the player has to learn and the character doesn't.
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Hehe. Just the other day, I got an exp bomb while killing an Elite Orc, at level 18. Now that was nice <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
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I got one while in the catacombs as well I killed a skeleton and instead of getting 234 I got 2340 whoopty doo Anyway know of a way to get this to work more often? This happened quite a bit in the catacombs tome as well.... But since then zip. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />
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Nice if you get an experience bomb when you kill Demon of lies <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />
Since DD1 ^^
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Nice if you get an experience bomb when you kill Demon of lies <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> Doesn't really matter anymore, now does it? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />
I am in blood Stepp'd in so far, that, should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o'er.
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No, you are right, but how much xp do you get when you kill him? Or maybe if you get an "xp bomb" when killing one in the black ring... (can't remember any names)
Since DD1 ^^
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No, you are right, but how much xp do you get when you kill him? Well, I reloaded an old save game to find out. The amount of experience you get depends on the level of your character, so this isn't a fixed number probably, but with the 47th level character I killed him with just now I got 140430 XP, 12766 of which was added because of maxed out wisdom. No Experience Bomb, but pretty nice! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Never had an XP Bomb with any of the Black Ring members either... The chances are quite slim of course.
I am in blood Stepp'd in so far, that, should I wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o'er.
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I've got exp. bomb on spider in catacombs, brought me to level 34.
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Hmmm... I've never encountered any of these special effects before.
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