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Still though, if you find a sheep corpse, there probably should be an option to tell Bertia without having to get a confession from the thief first.

You can actually track down the quest that Tom was sent on... plus you can also do more regarding Bertia and the sheep. So yeah... If you'd paid attention and didn't need your hand held so much then you might have less to complain about... Just my two cents.

You're not listening either. Picking up little pieces of information is one way for quests in this game to start.

You're right that the quest should update when you find the sheep corpse. That seems more like an omission of Alpha than by design.

Except that it IS quest information. What don't you get about that?

I'm sorry, what do you mean?

You have quests such as

"Aureus informed you of some legionnaires he sent to the church, but could not tell you anymore".

That's pretty obvious, without telling you how to play. Go find the church, find the legionnaires, find out what they learnt.

Then you have nonsense like

"Bertia claims she lost a sheep".

Ok. So? Why is that a quest? Hell, I found a sheep, that was lost and mauled. I went to talk to her (even had the sheep carcasse with me) and there was no prompt for it? Why is that in my quest menu?

It's clearly a journal entry. Not a quest.

Similar to

"What's-her-name told you her brother Tom went to join the Fantastic Five".

Cool story. Why is it a quest? It's just a journal note. (I spoke to the recruiter dude about Tom, and he told me where he went. Why didn't my quest update? Why didn't I get a dialogue option with what's-her-name telling her where her bro is?). It's not a quest. It's just a note.

As opposed to both the Jake's Killer quest, and the "Did Esmerelda do it?" quest. Both of which update as you find information, and give you an idea of what to do.

As for "being told how to play". Well yeah, it kind of is needed, given how restricting the gameplay is. (Not a complaint about the game, just a reality). If it were up to me, I'd have gotten the information out of Esmerelda on my own grounds, a lot quicker, but I don't have that option.

I'd have asked Bertia more about her sheep, I'd have grilled the recriuter about Tom, and informed what's-her-name. That the game doesn't let you do such simple things means it does need to do a little bit of pointing, to make up for how little you can interact with the world.

And I still feel that things that are just journal updates should stay in a journal, until you uncover enough information for them to be a quest.

... I don't get how "Bertia lost a sheep" is quest information. It isn't. It's a sentence saying "Bertia lost a sheep". It's not "Bertia needs help finding her sheep" it's not "Bertia lost a sheep and has asked for your help in finding out who stole it". It's not "Bertia lost a sheep and you found a sheep corpse".

"Bertia lost a sheep" is not a quest. It's not part of a quest. It's just "Bertia lost a sheep".

And on that point, why didn't the quest update when I found what was obviously her sheep's corpse, in the middle of a reasonably serioues murder investigation. I would have thought that questioning the person who's sheep ended up being a shoe-in for the corpse of a government official might be important. Nope. Nothing at all. But still the little "quest" line sitting there.


A simple "You've found Bertia's sheep, best hunt down who took it" instead of leaving me hanging, unable to talk to the person who it makes sense to talk to. That would turn it from a meaningless piece of trivia written in a quest log, into a quest.

Rather than investigate a murder, I would much prefer to be killing monsters.

You'll find that there are multiple gates to the city, all of them with enemies nearby. You're not trapped. The point of this thread is that for those who do like actual questing while keeping their characters lawful there isn't any combat at all for a few hours, which really feels weird considering the city is meant to be under attack from at least 3 sources.

Rather than investigate a murder, I would much prefer to be killing monsters.

It's also a city that's been living with constant attacks for two years and is basically neutral on that point. The undead can't be destroyed, they're a threat to trade and travel, but no longer to the city itself. The orc attack is relatively new and big news, but the orcs are focused more on the beach than the actual city.

I have no idea what the third attack is. If you mean the cultists, they aren't exactly rampaging through the streets now, are they. They're hiding.

Whiners got what they wanted again.

Wow, never happened before with DOS!

Whiners got what they wanted again.

Wow, never happened before with DOS!