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can talk the talk but can't walk the walk, Predictable and just as I thought, Calling BS, until proof, but walk away like you would do in real life. You can't stand up to jack s--t.

Heres the thing I'm 6.2 feet and 100kg with 2 years boxing training, but no I don't start fights, and no I don't approach people doing wrong things because from experience I know its not worth it. (I just call the police if required)

but I don't really do it online either 95% my posts on threads are either My threads and responses to my quotes.

I don't have an urge to go onto someone else's thread and start saying negative things about them because they asked a question I didn't like.

Sure, don't believe anyone would stand up to injustice being done, but expect others to believe you're some tough guy boxer.
This whole post made me laugh. Time to grow up. You aren't fooling anyone with your obvious immature behaviour projected through your insulting troll posts.

Anyway, this is pointless. I wish Hiver and blazed all the best during their trolling excursions.
Seeing how there's not a moderator around to do something about it, I guess you have carte blanche to behave like a dick. Good luck with that.

TF2 and DotA2 both monetarily compensate content creators for their time and effort, and as a result get a constant stream of high quality submissions. Players that are worth caring about from a business perspective are more than willing to pay a fair price for new content, if a modder or team of modders want to produce this content and charge for it the more power to them.

However, Larian as a company has to provide appropriate support for this, including profit share and methods of resolution for the issues that will certainly arise. If Larian doesn't want to do that, which is understandable because despite it most likely being profitable for them and an encouragement to modding it's a lot of backend work and things that are pulling them away from their core business, then there isn't much choice but to rely on a donation system.

It's nice to see modders getting compensated for their time and effort, and implementing a system that simplifies the process would be great for spurring on larger, more interesting mods which are what people would realistically be likely to spend money on.

Every single extensive modding community I've seen runs into terrible drama issues, a good deal of it stemming from modders getting burned out after spending a ridiculous amount of time creating content for no compensation and having users become toxic. Modders particularly dislike having their content used in other mods without credit, because credit and the warm fuzzy feeling of accolades is the only thing they usually get for their work. This sort of situation where people feel highly possessive of their work, have no means to profit off of it, and have to deal with a super unpleasant userbase makes it a wonder anybody bothers publicly releasing mods at all. It's no surprise a lot of modders eventually have a meltdown and remove all their content from sites, this sort of stuff could drive anybody crazy.

Just the idea of people being compensated for their time and wanting to know if Larian would provide the means for it seems to absurdly upset some people here, which is an early indicator of the same unpleasant elements you'll find in most modding scenes. The tools aren't even in a state to realistically produce an entirely new scenario, but you're somehow killing the community by asking Larian's stance on it.

It's Larian's engine, their tools, their decision on what's acceptable for created content using them. They should definitely have a stance sooner rather than later though so people can decide if the environment is worth their time.

There are benefits for and against, but seeing statements from people suggesting: "I would mod with my elite 3D art skills but I want $5 for the model, lol freecontent n00bs gtfo" is really appalling.

And I guarantee you there would be no modding "community", only modding studios.

Nobody wants to stop you from doing whatever you want.

Who exactly had said that? And where?

I havent seen it in this thread or the other one so... maybe you could point me to it.

I dont care which any side anyone comes down on this i myself find the idea of paying upfront for mods distasteful asking for optional donations is one thing but you have many shifty people who make a donation a requirement for any and all content, also ill point out all legal precedence i can think of in regards to this issue Bethesda, Maxis, Valve, EA, Blizzard has pretty much set it in stone that you "DO NOT" allow people to charge for fan made mods end of story. If Larian wants to break with tradition and face the legal headaches tied to this issue it is up to them even games that once were mods had to then buy a license to make their games and the mods that spurred the creation of that game still exists Free of charge its just the cleanest most legal way to do it so if you feel its somehow morally or ethically fine that's your own business legally its been established as bad practice thank you.

If anyone could guarantee anything, Larian would already have a policy in place regarding commercialization of mods. There are no guarantees, and there are no absolute facts in this regard. If you want to back up your opinions with examples of other games, etc, then do so.

Given the complaints about this topic, there may be a few deletions as I read through the rest of it...

Well that was kind of pointless. For those who complained:
- Some of posts did go off topic, but pretty much everything worth saying on topic was said before then, and the topic isn't completely derailed. It may or may not return to actual debate on the topic.
- The juvenile insults and condescending attitudes in some posts did not rise to a level requiring moderation.

Let's say I work for hours, and come up we a pretty nice script, I share for free.
You take it and use it in the mod you sell.
Wtf ?
Are you gonna pay me for my generously shared hard work ? Are you the only one to take advantage of it? Why would I share anything if you make money out of it and I am the fool ?

So, this might be the death of sharing.
Just take Mount and blade.
Only the most prestigious mods got sold. EVERYTHING else is free, the community being very dedicated about that. Result is a very old game that still has masses of followers, because of the great spirit and mods behind them.

NWN2 toolset was free, mods were free, the community is still strong behind it.

errm... ffs... sigh...

Dont cry about it now. If you want people to reply to you in a normal way learn to address others in a non insulting ways and without various invented strawmans and other assorted fallacies.

I would not pay you anything for that script you shared for free. And i will explain why exactly. What i would do is give you credit for it and i would share freely all my scripts and other tricks i discovered or made - for you to use as you want, provided you give me credit for them.

Because sharing is caring.