Larian Studios Forums General Chat RPG Chat My next game!

Carrie you might have to ask your game store if they can still order it for you, otherwise you'll have to try Ebay. Summoner's been out for a while so it may be hard to find.

Cheers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

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But I since I disagree with everyone, I'll give my two cents.

I very much enjoyed Arcanum. And I bought it when it was full price. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Right now, it's cheaper than heck, and I am shocked that people wouldn't think it was worth the miniscule price. Yes, it's a bit sad in the graphics department...but the many ways you can choose to play the game are phenomenal. The magic user/tech user/diplomat options are pretty cool. But the thing that excited me most, was the END. This really isn't a spoiler, but I've never before seen a game that showed the consequences of your actions or inaction so well. I've never replayed the game...but I imagine I will some day. There were a myriad of MAJOR quests, that you could complete, or not complete, and still advance gameplay. It was very open ended, totally non-linear and as far as bugs go..I really only noticed one, and it was in no way a game stopper. Also, multi-player didn't seem to work. But offline RPG's are what I purchase to play by myself anyway. Combat was a little unbalanced, it was much more difficult to go the tech route, than the magic user route...but it was in no way impossible, just a little more challenging. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I enjoy all sorts of games...I loved the diablo games...but Arcanum was a true RPG...it may have been a little slow for some people, but you could be as bad as you wanted to be, or as good. I thought it was a nice game. I never regretted the money I spent on it...unlike PoR2, and a couple other I could name.

So that's my humble opinion...the good and the bad. I really think most of you were WAYYYY to hard on what I thought was a decent game.

Perhaps if i can find it "cheap as chips" i might still be tempted on reading your reply, yes , i think i'll give it a go! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Hmmmm, I agree with everything that has been said about Summoner. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" />

It wasn't the best RPG I've ever played, but it really was fun.
However, I had the constant feeling that something is missing. I can't be much more precise - I felt like the entire world, each place you go just exists because you happen to be there.

I guess I stand alone with that asessment?!


Now... Arcanum - didn't play it. I went to the store, bought Evil Islands (nice game by the way) and Gothic, but when I asked the store clerk "Hey do you also have... ahem what was the name?... hmmm I forgot" Because I didn't rember the name "Arcanum" he showed me a couple of RPGs and so I stumbled over <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />

Fate! I'm not sure if Arcanum is worth a try after what I've heard here.

Last but not least... well acctually it is the least! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" /> Diabolo was about the only RPG I did not finish. I got to lvl 30 and quit. I'm sorry, but its really just clicking on the monsters. If they would at least think of a somewhat compelling storyline or give the creatures names, which do not sound like they were picked at random from the dictionary...

So that's it! Wait has anybody here played Evil Islands?

Arcanum is a very good game IMO, the graphics are not top but they are not as bad as childish, they are some what worse than Divine <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> The cut seens are very good ven though there are only really three, four if you include the start one(on load of game). http://www.rpgplanet.com/arcanum/screenshots.shtml this is a fansite with pictures of the Arcanum world if you want to judge for yourself.

Arcanum is very interesting because of the fact that you can go down one of four road(not counting sub-class type stuff),technoly whaere you can make and combind things to make amazing machines! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/up.gif" alt="" /> Magic, where you can teloport all over the map and fire spells that disentigrate(sp) your foes! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devil.gif" alt="" /> the third way is the stright fighter, a person who uses nothing but there brute strength to get them in and out of trouble. Finaly there is the theif, as a theif you prowl the night stealing from the rich and give to the locol(sp) fence for cash. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badsmile2.gif" alt="" />

The game itself in not at all liner, like some games, there is a main plot line but you don't even have to do it if you don't want to. Of corse you will have to go down the path of the main quest because you can't go on forever with out it or you will never complete the game! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Not to spoil to much be the main bad guy is a cool magic elf and so is the major good guy(other than yourself)you are found in the rechage(sp) of a zeplin and the person who finds you thinks your the rencarnatian of a powerful elf wizard that dies 2000 years ago because of the profecry(sp)

"and he shall be born on wings of fire, in hills shrouded in fog" or something like that, and since you are found in the burning rechage(sp) of a flying ship near a town called Shrouded Hills they think your the reborn elf wizard. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />

Also a little plug for a great game: Morrowind is also a really good game, the graphics are amazing and the gameplay is wonderful! Of corse if comes at a fairly high price(not only in money) I think its something like $40 American and the X-Pack is like another $15. The only real downside is its a killer for the computer because it requires a high end system chech here for details
http://www.elderscrolls.com/index.php

Ok, I'm done now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Evil Islands was a good game, the only complaint I had was the terrible voice acting. Especially for the main character, he sounds like his voice is breaking for goodness sake. Apart from that it had a good 3d engine and lots of great ideas, I loved being able to constuct my own weapons and armour from materials you could find.

I never much liked diablo either, it was too shallow. DD makes up for all its shortcomings thank goodness (Even if it adds a few of its own)

Arcanum is one of the things I don't want to be reminded of, and I'm thankful of the fact that my copy is pirated. My problems with lie not with the graphics; they lie with the horrible, horrible, horrible combat system.

Real-time = my character dies before she can even do anything.
Turn-based = I die of boredom before the characters could so much as be within each other's range.

Now, if it were possible to avoid combat completely and talk your way through the whole game (like Planescape: Torment, whose combat is, at the very most, optional), I wouldn't have given up on it. I would've been hooked to it, in fact. But alas, it didn't take me long to run away screaming after my third battle or so.

Morrowind was good for the first few hours, and then I came to realize just how horrible the mapping and navigation are. Never touched it ever since. In summary:

The Bad

- You need a very, very good PC to run it without suffering lag
- Repetitive combat
- Enchanting is evil
- Mapping and navigation are surely from the hellish pits of Baator
- Most NPCs have no personality
- Certain combos can make the game way too easy. I didn't intend to do it, but my second character was wiping out a whole cave of smugglers at level six.
- No focus in storyline
- Repetitive quests
- Vague directions given by NPCs - "go fetch me an egg from the third stone to the south of the eggmine from here, never mind the fact that the game has no compass and the landscape looks all the same."

The Good

- Lovely graphics
- Lots of freedom
- Uhm, that's about it. Oh, very nice graphics, as I said... I have to say something nice about it, now haven't I?
- Yes, very nice graphics.

Winterfox, do you have the PC Morrowind? Because if you do, you can download mods, whitch will enhance the game and give you cool stuff! Mapping is a little hard but you get use to it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Yes you are right that NPCs have no life but as I said mods are a great way to combat those problems! If you thought the game was too easy either, Role play someone who is a little less powerful, don't powergame or turn up the difficulity (if you have X-Pack) or all of the above! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

You say no focas in story line? If you only played for a few hours how could you really see how the main plot goes? The quesats for the main plot is like most of the rest of them but the actule(sp) story itself is really good.

Yes enchanting is very evil but if you pay to have someone else do it for you it is very cool because you can make some pretty good weapons/armor/clothes <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

Onto Arcanum, the combat I did froget to mention but it is really not that bad. The turn bassed is what I hat about it but the real time is fine as long as you have to react as fast as you can by shooting that orge charging at you with his huge axe or use some magic or if you can't fight, the age old "Run away, Run away!" to quote monty Python <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

I didn't have any problem with the combat in Arcanum. I kept it real time, and occaisionally switched to TB if there was a real hard battle.

Morrowind is a gorgeous game...but there is no doubt you need a good system and a great video card to run it.

No mod that I know of can combat the abhorrent navigation system, but then again, I've given up on the game some time ago and have never visited the forums ever since. I bet it'll take one hell of a mod to work around the mapping, though.

The story having no focus -- there's a lot of freedom, and the main storyline gets lost in the sea of hundreds of other quests really quick. The Tribunal expansion pack, I heard, improves the journal, but I haven't bought it (nor do I intend to buy it -- yet).

I can't stand Arcanum's combat, nor can I stand Fallout's. I hate turn-based. Give me real-time with a pause button any time, thank you very much.

Spick yer,
I installed and started Fallout 2 but i'm afraid i returned to a second helping of <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" /> i just can't put it down at the momment, i'm sure i will get back to F2 but it just don't compare to <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/div.gif" alt="" />.
And now to make matters worse i have won a bid on e-bay and will soon start Summoner due to recomendations on this site, Oh my what am i to do!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/exclamation.gif" alt="" />

play all of the games <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

What are you to do?

Get pirated copies of all those games. *snerk*

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Winterfox: Sometimes a game is worth buying you know!

I quite like turn based combat, being able to take a time out and consider your next move is great. That said, the ability to pause real time at will is the next best oprion.

lots of games are worth buying, I wouldn't mind that you couldn't copy games anymore so that the industry flourishes again

On the other hand, there're lots of games that aren't worth buying. I don't care to download them from the 'Net, and pirated copies are very much accessible to me. People always find a way to pirate 'em.

Mind you, I have two legal copies of PS:T. Don't ask why, I just do.

PS: T ????

developpers should however put more effort in making good demo's (with near release code) allowing us to evaluate the game and continue with the savegame of the demo