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You are attempting an irrelevant distraction.




"Hung up on Trump". "Blindsided by party politics". "It wasn't Trump".

I can't help but notice that you're casting blame everywhere else but Trump. I hope you're not trying to say that Trump's handling of the COVID-19 outbreak is good or working.

Thanks for your input I guess. You're hopelessly consumed by partisan politics so no matter what I say you can't overcome your biases. No, I don't think Trump is a moral person let alone a decent politician.

If a Democrat says "2 + 2 = 4" and a Republican says "2 + 2 = 6", it is not "partisan" to say 2 + 2 = 4. It is not correct to say "the truth is in the middle, therefore 2 + 2 = 5." It is not correct to say "both sides are equally to blame."

Oh yeah? Which party is better and for what reasons?

The Democratic party is better (not perfect, but better) because they focus on improving the lives of ordinary people, and as a bonus, when ordinary people do better, the economy does better. They believe in facts and science, instead of firing experts for not sucking up enough.

If you truly cannot see any difference between the Democrats and Republicans, then you are hopeless and I will waste no more time on this.

Oh yes, certainly. Especially when Democrat presidents abet or start a bunch of wars in the Middle East and North Africa, I'm sure the locals' lives are improved by a wide margin as a result of carpet-bombing their homes and livelihoods to dust.

Not true. They deny biology with gender ideology, a ideology who ignores all natural differences among males and females that exists on every complex species, their overregulations kills small/medium business, the states controlled by democrats are the worst. They also keep with retarded identity identity politics, some so retarded that the Argentine son of Adolf Eichmann would be eligible to affirmative action programs if he claims to be "hispanic" despite the fact that they never worked,

Los Angeles is now the homeless capital of US. Detroit is more violent than Hell de Janeiro.

Huh? Who's George W. Bush? Never heard of him, or this trillion-dollar "Iraq War" thingee. Drone striking an Iranian General? Doesn't ring any bells to me!

https://sputniknews.com/us/201803271062904845-us-war-democrats-republicans/



The Democrats are warmongers too. How can you support them?

Nope this is an argument the right uses....the two sides are more different now in their beliefs then since the civil war. Both sides are not equal.

Look at how your color votes....that is all that matters. What are they for and against? Against a living wage? Against worker protection? Against free internet? Against giving money to workers and instead wanted to 'trust' the companies to give out the money? Against separation of religion and state that has led to people still have church gatherings and the belief that a covid free future is just a few dollars in tithe away.

That's called "Whataboutism", where instead of addressing my point, you deflect by trying to raise a different issue. I never claimed that the Democrats were perfect.

Also, don't use Russian propaganda sites to support your case.

False. You claimed Democrats strove to improve the lives of ordinary people, which is demonstrably a lie. Are you disputing the facts presented in the article or are you merely attacking the source? I speak Russian and chat with my peers from Russia sometimes, maybe you should just walk away from me. Propaganda is highly contagious after all.

The only liar here is you. You are not even pretending to argue in good faith and are instead trying to endlessly deflect away the facts. I am done wasting time on you.

Look, guys, cool it down a bit. Thanks.

Okay, this is politics after all. Things are bound to get heated. Maybe you're attracted to the Democratic party because they pay lip service to protection of the working class, feeding the poor, building schools and providing less trammeled access to healthcare. No sane person I know is opposed to any of those things. Unfortunately, when your country runs hundreds of military bases overseas, runs up the national debt i.e. spends trillions of dollars on war and generously dispenses foreign aid (you would think everything is peachy back in the states) to a multitude of nations to varying effect, obviously there will be less money for the facilities Democrats say they want to improve. When your country behaves like an empire and is basically ruled by secret societies of criminal warmongering psychopaths, resources will be stretched thin and as a result the people back home will suffer.

If the party you claim to be the better one were genuinely interested in improving your life, the first thing a Democratic president would do is dismantle the military-industrial complex thereby freeing up valuable funds to actually improve your life! That's how I can tell they're a bunch of liars. The only Democrat to have tried such a thing in recent history was John F. Kennedy. He didn't fare well because as I may have previously hinted at the federal government is a criminal enterprise that tortures, murders and oppresses freedom-loving individuals both at home and overseas. I don't hate people who vote for Democrats, everyone has their reasons and ultimately votes for what they believe to be the lesser evil. However, saying that on a fundamental level they are somehow different from Republicans is extremely far-fetched and naive to me.

It's a very common idea, but if you look at voting patterns of rep vs dems, there is a very clear difference. Dem party has shitload of problems, but it's miles better than republicans. Obamacare was very flawed, but it was step into right direction, uninsusured people went from 44.3 to 28.2 mil. After trumps changes - it is projected to grow 24% by 2029. Iran deal was AMAZING, it's insane that they managed to negotiate it so favorably, it has decreased world conflict and obviously, trump fucks it up. In terms of abortion rights - republicans and especially trump is pandering to fundamentalist evangelicals (he has 75% approval rating from then), in roe vs wade overturn there is very clear distinction. In terms of ICE there is clear differencde, gun control etc etc.

No. They are not the same.

Oh, that's just fantastic. So why don't they pass a bill stipulating everyone on US soil is automatically insured? The extra hospitals, doctors, nurses, medical equipment and medicine (tons of which is made in China nowadays) you sorely need will materialize out of thin air! Woo-hoo! Now we can all die together in the waiting room. Iran deal was amazing compared to what.. Syria? Assad must go, Assad is gassing little children says the country that vaporized entire cities with nuclear bombs dropped on a nation that had already surrendered. Libya? We came, we saw, he died *cackles*! Sounds like someone who urgently needs to be committed to a mental institution. World conflict sure does seem to decrease when you stop reporting on certain subjects. Instead of preventing situations that lead to abortion, you're debating how to kill babies on the cheap? Whoa, American exceptionalism at its finest.

All Democrats do is redistribute what little wealth is left for ordinary people along tribal lines, they never tackle the source of the issue.

Right, it's not white, means it's black. Got it.

> Iran deal was amazing compared to what.. Syria?

Iran with (relatively) stable goverment without nukes > iran with religion fundamentalist goverment with nukes. Hillary is fucking atrocious, carrier politician with no real stances on anhything, but she wouldn't have fucked up as much as trump. USA military industrial complex is a nightmare.

> So why don't they pass a bill stipulating everyone on US soil is automatically insured?

Republicans. Like Ben Shapiro, whose doctor wife would appearantly would become slave and other nonsense arguments. How do you think politics work? It is very rare to see drastic changes in any country, including one party dictatorial like china. It's mostly moving to one or another direction by inches.

> Instead of preventing situations that lead to abortion, you're debating how to kill babies on the cheap?

You clearly have no idea on this issue in usa.

>All Democrats do is redistribute what little wealth is left for ordinary people along tribal lines

Nonsense. Compared to republicans democrats are fiscally responsible party. Republican monetary policy is cutting down regulations and lowering taxes for the rich - the idea is that some of that money will trickle down to regular people. In reality what happens is stock buybacks, which artificially inflates stock prices and together with poorly regulated economy creates bubbles. Companies don't start producing more because they have more money, they produce more when there is demand for it. Trickle down economics has only worked in countries where there is naturally high demand - for example post war countries.

I'm going to keep it short here. Last I checked Democrats were in favor of both open borders and free trade - none of that helps the working class but if you think of the latter as bigots then it doesn't feel as bad to ruin their livelihoods I guess. Speaking of religious fundamentalist governments with nukes, there's one based in Washington, D.C. How many wars has Iran started and how many nukes has it launched on its enemies compared to the US? If anything, it's the US that needs to be contained for the greater good. You give presidents too much credit for foreign policy.

The issue on abortion is very simple - Americans don't want to give up their porn habits (which is an industry that exploits people and contributes to human trafficking), think casual sex is an inalienable god-given right plus they worship sportsball personalities as deities even though a great deal of them are abusive or turn out to be rapists. Oh yeah, Hollywood is crawling with those as well. Abortion is a pathological occurrence in society that traumatizes people and any nation that has come to the point where it's regulating abortion on virtually a daily basis deserves to be nuked. America is a nation of degenerates, that's all you need to know in order to understand abortion.

Perhaps we could stick to debating. This approach isn't going to change anybody else's mind and neither will it win the internets.

I've left the topic open to discuss stuff but not if it's just noise.