Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback SPOILERS:Help Reduce Game Returns (F-this moments)

I saved the child, then proceeded to eradicate all the druids, they were pricks, found out later that Kagha and Netty (or whatever the healer apprentice was) are badguys, so it worked out.

You know who made this game right?

1) you can save the child several ways through dialog
2) You can kill the druids
3) I thought it made for a dramatic story which gave me an emotional reaction unlike the usual fluff in games.

Sorry, no. You dont get to dump Cha then complain about failing social interactions. Having the kid dies forms the narrative just as much as having her live. Try playing it both ways and see how the story progresses, its interesting. You don't always get to win. You DO have a chance. You just failed at it.

Ironically, this is exactly how I saw it. I made a dice roll, and failed, and the child died, on my Thief, but my Ranger saved the child. My first thought wasn't "F this", it was "hey, consequences for not passing a dialog check".


You certainly misinterpreted that scene: The scene inside the gate gives you a chance for character development, something people would be lamenting the lack of, if it wasn't available.

Yes, the snake killed the child but by not stopping the snake it felt like I killed the child because I was given options that had the potential to save the child.

I didn't say remove anything. Simply redirect the player a bit so they encounter the snake scene a little later IF they simply sprinted for the druid grove and are running pel-mel like chickens with their heads cut off. This is something a live DM would be able to notice and adjust on the fly, but a Computer program needs to be told to add a slight slowing mechanic should the player be ignoring things. Ideally, anything that would redirect or slow you down would be set to either disappear with natural exploration and/or game time played (a bit of both would be ideal).

In fact, I'm encouraging them to try and push a player who's sprinting through to slow down and develop their character. Although not because they're "playing it wrong" but because it will get them in a better headspace to be immersed and invested so that harsher barriers will set them back, but not make them abandon the game entirely.

I don't see redirecting mechanics being needed too much in the full game itself beyond the typical story telling purposes, but for touchier subjects it would be good to have time bubbles around them to ensure you've played enough of the game to be invested enough before it introduces them. The first 5-10 hours I think is reasonable to consider for Baldur's Gate depending on how deep you're planning to go and how long the entire game is expected to be. 5-10 hours seems like a drop in the bucket for Baldur's gate total play time which is why I think it's reasonable.

1. let me quote steam before accessing the store page:



A child getting murdered does fall under "mature content" I'd say. So there was a warning before you bought the game. Nothing makes for a finer object of hate, than a child killer.

2. It really is super obvious that you can save her. Yes you may roll badly, but if you wanted you could always savescum for a better roll. That whole shtick that its so hard to find the right options is just not believable. Its justification, because you need more arguments except "I dont like it" to make a case for its removal.

3. My guess is there are more people who would return the game for any other reason than this. Even *you* did not return it after all.

You have to change your mindset about social interactions I think.
My observation is that failing a check generally lead's to the default outcome, but passing a check gives you a chance to bypass it.

That means you have a slim chance at saving the kid, but the default is that Kagha kills her.

I think the scene is amazing, even if the kid dies, it shows the desperation both sides have. And we can have our revenge on Kagha many ways if we want.


I doubt many people return this game because of this scene, it's a tough scene, but most people who buys an "Mature" game expects to get tough content