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So i play a 8 Charisma Dwarf warrior.
I pick up Laezel as a companion on the ship (mandatory) shes a real demanding bitch isn't she? i try to piss her off as much as possible because i don't like her neither physically or mentally.
I pick up Astarian as a companion even thou he starts off putting a knife to my throat, he certaintly looks like a wierd fella and nothing about him is trustworthy, i brush him off just like Laezel and they keep disaaproving with most of my choises
The first time i make a full camp, Astarion wants to fuck my lil ol ugly dorf?!?!?! thats from wanting to murder me to havin sex in a split second..... hmm ok well to each his own i guess i just ended up killed the lunatic and none of my opther companions seemd to care about that either.
Next camp Laezel sneaks in on me wanting to slit my throat because of the little frind we carrry around´in our heads, ok i try to talk some sense into her and fails the check, she wipes the camp because all the healing pots and healing food was stacked on her, so she just attack/heals nonstop until were all dead. ::) quite funny actually , but offcourse i have to reload to suceeed the check for her to calm down., i then proceed to take another long rest and then laezel wants to fuck my lil ol ugly dorf?!?!!? wtf ghet away from me you mentally unstable frog, i decide i have to end her misery because i simply can't trust her AT ALL.

Is this really how the game is ment to be played ?1? if yes i need to have an option for making my own stable companions please, i donø't give a rats ass about sex and sexual relations in videogames because it's always gonna be the creators prefrences pushed down my throat, just like having to selecet a preference in looks from the caracter creation, im not simply into physical attraction its a combination of so many other things and none of the premade companioons in BG3 tiks any of my boxes just the contrary.

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Actually Lae'zel is pretty well written and voice acted. The Gith are arrogant supremacist arseholes who are less tolerant than the Drow. Personally would just smash its head in and nick her armor but the companions are limited. The overly dramatic elven vampire would meet the same fate just like the self-promoting egotistcal cretin that Wyll is. As for the romance crap I find it difficult to believe all your companions are willing bump uglies with literally anything you create. Lae'zel would use a halfling as a sex toy then eat it afterward.

The romance options are forced on you out of the blue which makes no sense. I would have thought to recieve such interest you would need to show interest first? I think Larian need to tone it down a bit personally. I know people like this stuff but me personally? Narr unless I can get a taxi afterwards after robbing her LCD TV and laptop I am not bothered.

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We're getting pointless sex options because apparently this is the future of games, one short, one tall, one fat, one thin, etc and if it doesn't have a bit of nookie it isn't 'real'. I suppose It'll make it more popular with 13 year old console players, or at least exercise one arm.

Personally I don't see any point in sex in computer games and haven't since, well, ever.

As for the randomness and pointlessness, its written by people who are probably in lockdown and can't remember what the real world is like.

Or who think 'Friends' is the real world.

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That is actually a good point, it "feels" like its written for 13 y old boys that think Pornhub is actually reallife situations.

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The companions are not all in. Some will be less edgy or evil. But they are coming later. So far I have only found Shadowheart to be romanceable for my taste.

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Agreed with what people here say. For me romance is detrimental to my enjoyment of a game. I'd also much prefer the resources to be directed to something more worthwhile.

It wouldn't be as bad if it was at least player-initiated or toggleable. People always say "hurr durr, there's no romance unless you want it to be there, what's your problem". The problem is that the companions are all ridiculously horny. I don't want to have to fend off "weird sex cult" (as someone described it). I want to be in an adventuring party, not on some dating group. And one dirty-minded companion is enough. I'll just kick him out. All of them? No thank you. Custom party says hello.

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you guys don't get it, its the tadpole............who want to have sex smile like in the movies species smile

tadpole in your head = more libido , vamp can walk in houses , drow can walk on sunlight ....... we gain superpowers....

it's all mindflayers doing I tell ya smile so "they" can watch smile

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Originally Posted by Evil_it_Self
you guys don't get it, its the tadpole............who want to have sex smile like in the movies species smile


Lewd tadpole going out of control.

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Leave my murderous horny shadow people alone!


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Originally Posted by Evil_it_Self
you guys don't get it, its the tadpole............who want to have sex smile like in the movies species smile

tadpole in your head = more libido , vamp can walk in houses , drow can walk on sunlight ....... we gain superpowers....

it's all mindflayers doing I tell ya smile so "they" can watch smile



Hahahahah smile good one

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I agree, it is off putting how everyone is trying to bang my character. And not just that, they've flirted with each other in banter quite a few times during my gameplay too.

This people really need to take a cold shower.

Originally Posted by Uncle Lester

It wouldn't be as bad if it was at least player-initiated or toggleable. People always say "hurr durr, there's no romance unless you want it to be there, what's your problem". The problem is that the companions are all ridiculously horny. I don't want to have to fend off "weird sex cult" (as someone described it). I want to be in an adventuring party, not on some dating group.


Honestly, same.

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while i get the desire to have 'meaningful' and well written romance storylines within an rpg, i do wish that larian toned it down with some of the dialogue and how quickly it seems the romances progress - it may just be ea, but the fact that we are able to progress so far in current romances while still in act1 makes me wonder if these romance 'scenes' are supposed to trigger later on in the bg3 narrative. idk its just my personal opinion, but i also feel like the amount of romance content we have got so far actually runs into the *spoilers* territory where i wouldve liked to have explored more fully at launch going in blind.

im also concerned that larian may devote more attention to the romance interactions (which apparently can happen with every origin character/recruitable npc to the point where its almost meme-worthy) at the detriment of what i would consider higher priority feedback items (ie combat balancing, more immersive/significance of custom characters, party management controls, camera controls, act/narrative pacing, short rest/long rest cheese, moving camp location, additional content for launch [classes, races, etc.] etc.), but i suppose that is understandable and even expected given that one of larians big updates was almost entirely romance/rp focused (even if i still think it may not be the best use of resources at this stage of ea).

idk, its hard to describe, but i also think that the way larian has implemented romance hooks, writing, and how quickly things can escalate (even tho we still dont have any clear passage of time mechanics with day/night or camp rests really - even the tadpole is taking a break apparently) something is kinda lost in terms of a realistic story/narrative progression and that it can detract from npc companions in and of itself where they move from being able to stand independently as their own unique npc with their own goals and motives to just becoming a 'sidepiece' to the main character where their only significance to the story is now as the players love interest.

this very well may be toned down at full launch given some of the ea feedback noted here, and i would also say that if more companions are introduced after the act1 companion/map locks (still not a fan of btw) then that may work to alleviate the current concerns, but tbh i dont have high hopes. i anticipate that the additional recruitable npcs that the devs are creating/writing currently will all likely have potential to be romanceable and the merits of each romance will likely fall to the dev and how the studio finally implements it in game, whereas i think having npcs that you cant romance, even if the minority, would be a better application and avoid the dating sim comparisons.

(last comment - i hope we get more than just the 12 or so npc companions that larian has intimated, as respectfully, the recruitable mercenaries we are alleged to be able to recruit comes off as a lazy compromise/fix to replace companions the player may not want to use - im pretty sure we still dont have the details as to how this will be implemented? I also wonder why anyone would use a 'lesser' mercenary recruit instead of a more fleshed out dev written companion, unless the companion gets 'locked out' and isnt available or the player just really doesnt like the dev's origin/npc character [which may be more of a dev/larian writing issue]. this doesnt even take into account larians apparent preference for four companion slots which i would argue only works to further exacerbate these issues as the player is working with limited party choices at the onset and if players are opting to use mercs over the dev-npcs then that doesnt really speak highly of our companion choices.)

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Originally Posted by nation
while i get the desire to have 'meaningful' and well written romance storylines within an rpg, i do wish that larian toned it down with some of the dialogue and how quickly it seems the romances progress - it may just be ea, but the fact that we are able to progress so far in current romances while still in act1 makes me wonder if these romance 'scenes' are supposed to trigger later on in the bg3 narrative. idk its just my personal opinion, but i also feel like the amount of romance content we have got so far actually runs into the *spoilers* territory where i wouldve liked to have explored more fully at launch going in blind.

im also concerned that larian may devote more attention to the romance interactions (which apparently can happen with every origin character/recruitable npc to the point where its almost meme-worthy) at the detriment of what i would consider higher priority feedback items (ie combat balancing, more immersive/significance of custom characters, party management controls, camera controls, act/narrative pacing, short rest/long rest cheese, moving camp location, additional content for launch [classes, races, etc.] etc.), but i suppose that is understandable and even expected given that one of larians big updates was almost entirely romance/rp focused (even if i still think it may not be the best use of resources at this stage of ea).

idk, its hard to describe, but i also think that the way larian has implemented romance hooks, writing, and how quickly things can escalate (even tho we still dont have any clear passage of time mechanics with day/night or camp rests really - even the tadpole is taking a break apparently) something is kinda lost in terms of a realistic story/narrative progression and that it can detract from npc companions in and of itself where they move from being able to stand independently as their own unique npc with their own goals and motives to just becoming a 'sidepiece' to the main character where their only significance to the story is now as the players love interest.

this very well may be toned down at full launch given some of the ea feedback noted here, and i would also say that if more companions are introduced after the act1 companion/map locks (still not a fan of btw) then that may work to alleviate the current concerns, but tbh i dont have high hopes. i anticipate that the additional recruitable npcs that the devs are creating/writing currently will all likely have potential to be romanceable and the merits of each romance will likely fall to the dev and how the studio finally implements it in game, whereas i think having npcs that you cant romance, even if the minority, would be a better application and avoid the dating sim comparisons.

(last comment - i hope we get more than just the 12 or so npc companions that larian has intimated, as respectfully, the recruitable mercenaries we are alleged to be able to recruit comes off as a lazy compromise/fix to replace companions the player may not want to use - im pretty sure we still dont have the details as to how this will be implemented? I also wonder why anyone would use a 'lesser' mercenary recruit instead of a more fleshed out dev written companion, unless the companion gets 'locked out' and isnt available or the player just really doesnt like the dev's origin/npc character [which may be more of a dev/larian writing issue]. this doesnt even take into account larians apparent preference for four companion slots which i would argue only works to further exacerbate these issues as the player is working with limited party choices at the onset and if players are opting to use mercs over the dev-npcs then that doesnt really speak highly of our companion choices.)


we can even date non- recruitable npc, like halsin and the drow

romance in bg3 will play a key part in the game. we barely scratched the surface

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Originally Posted by nation
i hope we get more than just the 12 or so npc companions that larian has intimated


My initial optimistic guess was 12, but I'm afraid all signs point to 8. Or rather 8 is confirmed and anything beyond that is a maaaybe. At least that's my understanding.

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Another incidence of where the characters in the game's community are more poorly-written than the characters in the game itself.


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Originally Posted by Uncle Lester
i hope we get more than just the 12 or so npc companions that larian has intimated

My initial optimistic guess was 12, but I'm afraid all signs point to 8. Or rather 8 is confirmed and anything beyond that is a maaaybe. At least that's my understanding.


You are right those are the signs but we need to make it clear that's not at all keeping with the traditions of the BG series.

Oh, and romance is part of the BG2 experience and it plays an important role in Role Playing, fantasy literature and classic fairy tales. Tristan and Isolde, Arthur and Guinevere, the Iliad and Odyssey . . . into the present with contemporary novels and video games.

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You think that's weird, I had a TT character dating her mount(dragonkin) and ended up with a half Dragon kid.

Romance happens in games. Lol.

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Originally Posted by KillerRabbit
You are right those are the signs but we need to make it clear that's not at all keeping with the traditions of the BG series.


I must say I'm very disappointed that there are only 8 companions planned. I respect the mindset of "quality over quantity", but you can go too far in this. It would be fine if it was a little bit less than BG2, but 8? Not good. Choice is critical in cRPGs. It's the same as with the scanned faces with no way to actually make "your" character (not an actor scan). It feels weird to criticize quality, but quality ate choice in this game.

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Originally Posted by Ormgaard
So i play a 8 Charisma Dwarf warrior.
I pick up Laezel as a companion on the ship (mandatory) shes a real demanding bitch isn't she? i try to piss her off as much as possible because i don't like her neither physically or mentally.
I pick up Astarian as a companion even thou he starts off putting a knife to my throat, he certaintly looks like a wierd fella and nothing about him is trustworthy, i brush him off just like Laezel and they keep disaaproving with most of my choises
The first time i make a full camp, Astarion wants to fuck my lil ol ugly dorf?!?!?! thats from wanting to murder me to havin sex in a split second..... hmm ok well to each his own i guess i just ended up killed the lunatic and none of my opther companions seemd to care about that either.
Next camp Laezel sneaks in on me wanting to slit my throat because of the little frind we carrry around´in our heads, ok i try to talk some sense into her and fails the check, she wipes the camp because all the healing pots and healing food was stacked on her, so she just attack/heals nonstop until were all dead. ::) quite funny actually , but offcourse i have to reload to suceeed the check for her to calm down., i then proceed to take another long rest and then laezel wants to fuck my lil ol ugly dorf?!?!!? wtf ghet away from me you mentally unstable frog, i decide i have to end her misery because i simply can't trust her AT ALL.

Is this really how the game is ment to be played ?1? if yes i need to have an option for making my own stable companions please, i donø't give a rats ass about sex and sexual relations in videogames because it's always gonna be the creators prefrences pushed down my throat, just like having to selecet a preference in looks from the caracter creation, im not simply into physical attraction its a combination of so many other things and none of the premade companioons in BG3 tiks any of my boxes just the contrary.


+1 to all of this

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i donø't give a rats ass about sex and sexual relations in videogames because it's always gonna be the creators prefrences pushed down my throat


I'm trying not to make a joke about this. Pushed down my throat is not funny. Rolls d20 . . .

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