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So i play a 8 Charisma Dwarf warrior. While the good folk of Faerun (and beyond, seeing as Laezel is a gith) might wax poetically about the beauty of elves, everyone harbors a secret dwarf fetish. At endgame there will be a special [dwarf] only option to seduce the villain (whatever they are) to your side.
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So i play a 8 Charisma Dwarf warrior. While the good folk of Faerun (and beyond, seeing as Laezel is a gith) might wax poetically about the beauty of elves, everyone harbors a secret dwarf fetish. At endgame there will be a special [dwarf] only option to seduce the villain (whatever they are) to your side. I pictured a dwarf shaking his beard like women in those shampoo commercials. (I googled "dwarven beard loreal" and this was the best gif I found. I'm disappointed with the internet. Or my google-fu.)
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enthusiast
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Joined: Oct 2020
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i donø't give a rats ass about sex and sexual relations in videogames because it's always gonna be the creators prefrences pushed down my throat I'm trying not to make a joke about this. Pushed down my throat is not funny. Rolls d20 . . . What happens on critical?
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journeyman
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Joined: Oct 2020
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Romance is optional just say "NO" it is seriously not that hard, I for one like the romance especially with Shadowheart. Also sex sales and its always been like that and every gaming company is going with it now looks like.
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i donø't give a rats ass about sex and sexual relations in videogames because it's always gonna be the creators prefrences pushed down my throat I'm trying not to make a joke about this. Pushed down my throat is not funny. Rolls d20 . . . What happens on critical? I'm afraid to find out what happen if I roll a one. I think . . .
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stranger
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Joined: Oct 2020
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The romance is good - you can choose not to participate. I'd argue that it's possibly too 'easy' - or the writers WANT you to establish a romance with one of the characters because that one may play a role in later acts on a side quest to rescue your boo or whatever.
But - someone else nailed it imo - it's the tadpole. Some may think 'it's forced' or 'why is everyone so horny'.....to that i ask 'Have you ever had a ticking time bomb in your head that you can feel squirm time and again?' - Knowing you could die from it in the next minute, day or month - you dont know the exact hour but everything is telling you it's gonna happen. With that kind of stress I'm only surprised it's not a full blown orgy every time you make camp.
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Joined: Nov 2020
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The romance is good - you can choose not to participate. I'd argue that it's possibly too 'easy' - or the writers WANT you to establish a romance with one of the characters because that one may play a role in later acts on a side quest to rescue your boo or whatever.
But - someone else nailed it imo - it's the tadpole. Some may think 'it's forced' or 'why is everyone so horny'.....to that i ask 'Have you ever had a ticking time bomb in your head that you can feel squirm time and again?' - Knowing you could die from it in the next minute, day or month - you dont know the exact hour but everything is telling you it's gonna happen. With that kind of stress I'm only surprised it's not a full blown orgy every time you make camp.
Especially after battles, putae has it's genesis. At least here we have choice. Anybody can click "no".
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Joined: Oct 2020
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side quest to rescue your boo or whatever. Thank you sir; I am legit dying over here.
“There is only one thing we say to Death: Not today.â€
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I kind of wish not every character was interested in the PC at least. I get why they made it this way. Player choice and all that. If you're playing a male character you should be able to still romance Gale or Astarion or whatever it is you want.
But at the same time it does make things a little awkward if you're trying to form plutonic relationships. As-is I don't think it is possible to just be good friends with Gale. He wants to bone, and you have to reject him.
There is something special about strong plutonic relationships based on mutual respect and admiration in which neither side has sexual interest in the other, and the game is missing out on that experience right now.
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Joined: Nov 2020
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I kind of wish not every character was interested in the PC at least. I get why they made it this way. Player choice and all that. If you're playing a male character you should be able to still romance Gale or Astarion or whatever it is you want.
But at the same time it does make things a little awkward if you're trying to form plutonic relationships. As-is I don't think it is possible to just be good friends with Gale. He wants to bone, and you have to reject him.
There is something special about strong plutonic relationships based on mutual respect and admiration in which neither side has sexual interest in the other, and the game is missing out on that experience right now. I thought you have to indicate romantic intentions in the wave scene first? Well, don't have to be plutonic, more like a friend. Perfect example would be Kim Kitsuragi. It is one of most realistic relations in video games.
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And yet again, because of the creativity WALL that is CINEMATIC DIALOGUES even with mods we wont be able to change Larians imposed vision of romance. If done right, subtle non intrusive romance is great. Even with sex scenes. Right now if your an adult; its cringy, unnatural, pushed and definitely in many cases idiotic. Here it goes again, <<BUT In BG2....>>there are some great romance dialogues/conflicts. One particular MOD called Yvette romance...such great content : (Everything starts with a strange parchment you may buy on the Promenade. It's a portrait of young lady. That's how Yvette appears in the game. Help her to remember who she really is, let her experience adventures, let her stay by your side - that may guide you to something more than friendship, something Sune herself would bless. Yet remember that Yvette's past can tear your with its sharp talons.) Common, Larian studio is located near France right?! that's got to count for something.
Last edited by mr_planescapist; 07/11/20 12:38 AM.
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"It is not what you think, I am a Vampire" is still my top romance related quote so far. And gith are supposed to lay eggs, not sure how a romance would work out here, it might end up sunny side up if we try to stay realistic.
Last edited by Choosen of KEK; 07/11/20 01:12 AM.
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I thought you have to indicate romantic intentions in the wave scene first? Well, don't have to be plutonic, more like a friend. Perfect example would be Kim Kitsuragi. It is one of most realistic relations in video games.
Wave scene? I don't think I ever got such a thing. I've never flirted with Gale or Astarion, but when the tiefling party started both invited me for some hot sex and I had to turn them down as I was going for Lae'zel.
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Wave scene? I don't think I ever got such a thing. I've never flirted with Gale or Astarion, but when the tiefling party started both invited me for some hot sex and I had to turn them down as I was going for Lae'zel. I have read something like that. In my case he just cheered PC and SH. Funny that only Astarion had yellow sign above his head. When I saw where it's going, I just simply reloaded and went straight to Shadowheart before interacting with others. This locked other romances. Maybe they patched Gale's triggers because I had no weave scene (kept him at distance, artifact feeding was enough from my side). PC is supposed to kiss Gale during weave scene or something. Not sure about sex after battle but Gale may give also awkward sex proposition post tielfling-camp scene, he ignores the fact PC has romanced someone else. Luckily, I have missed this unpleasantness (didn't trigger; weave scene required).
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stranger
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Okay, I wasn't going to post a response to this thread but my urge is too great.
Nobody, not Larian, not WotC, not gods, ghosts, or ghouls, are forcing you to romance or fuck anyone. The only character that has consistently come onto me through all playthroughs is Astarion which I think is only because I keep is affinity high. Unless you actively flirt with them and pursue them, Shadowheart, Gale, Wyll, even Lae'zel, do not come onto you. You have to actively pursue these options and go after them. There's no real 'forced romance' unless one character asking you for a booty call is too much for you.
As for the 'I'd much rather they make a good game'....implying they can't do both? Saying they're wasting 'resources' on romances is like claiming Destiny 2 wasted resources adding new weapons and mechanics. It's something people enjoy, something people thought of, and wanted to work on. Just because it's not your cup of tea, which is fine- I'm not particularly interested in watching pixels get it on either, doesn't mean it's existence is a waste of resources or is going to detract from the game. In my time playing the Beta, I've seen that the first half of act one has more interesting and engaging questlines and dialogue than the bulk of plenty of other games I've played, even in it's rough state.
Apologies if this sounds patronizing, I just don't understand the vitriol against an optional mechanic that plenty of other people are having fun with.
I'm also giving Larian a lot of my faith considering DoS2 followed the same formula and delivered an incredibly impressive game.
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Its because you have to just say no. . .To all of them. Almost immediately. Contrasted with BG 2 where the opportunity to seduce a companion had to be earned over several interactions and hours of play. I can't speak for everyone but I have no interests in ruining anyone else's joy, by all means keep romance within the game. Flings can be as tasteless, easy, or disposable as people want them to be, or as involved, complicated and meaningful as people want them to be I don't care . .Just show some restraint. Allow the player to initiate some interest before the companions take turns dry humping their leg. The whole reason we have laws against sexual harassment in the work place is because people liked to be viewed as more than just objects of other people's lusts.
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you guys don't get it, its the tadpole............who want to have sex like in the movies species tadpole in your head = more libido , vamp can walk in houses , drow can walk on sunlight ....... we gain superpowers.... it's all mindflayers doing I tell ya so "they" can watch So the entire Illithid conspiracy is simply designed to obtain People Porn for tadpoles. Who's have thunk it !! Bravo for such a nefarious plot, Dr. EvilTadpole
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People keep repeating 'no one is forcing you'. This is a technicality, yes, sure, you can just say no.
To all of them. At the same time. All of them are trying to bang you early through the game during the same scene. You can say no, that doesn't make it any less weird.
You can say no, but you are still exposed to their weird advances and flirting with each other. To clarify, I don't mind romances in the game, I very much enjoy them, specially if they're well developed as a slow burn. I tested every romance scene in my playthrough because I was curious to see how it would unfold. And it feels weird and unnatural.
Hell, I was just trying to be friendly with Shadowheart, trying to make some girl friendship bond, I ended up triggering the romance scene even though I had no intentions of romancing a female. I rolled with it.
P.S: Still weird.
Last edited by Goldberry; 07/11/20 04:29 AM.
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People keep repeating 'no one is forcing you'. This is a technicality, yes, sure, you can just say no.
To all of them. At the same time. All of them are trying to bang you early through the game during the same scene. You can say no, that doesn't make it any less weird.
You can say no, but you are still exposed to their weird advances and flirting with each other. To clarify, I don't mind romances in the game, I very much enjoy them, specially if they're well developed as a slow burn. I tested every romance scene in my playthrough because I was curious to see how it would unfold. And it feels weird and unnatural.
Hell, I was just trying to be friendly with Shadowheart, trying to make some girl friendship bond, I ended up triggering the romance scene even though I had no intentions of romancing a female. I rolled with it.
P.S: Still weird. +1 The comparison to some Manson Family-esque sex cult really isn't terribly far from the reality in that scene. There is something incredibly tone deaf about celebrating a small scale genocide with a potential orgy.
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Joined: Sep 2020
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To all of them. At the same time. All of them are trying to bang you early through the game during the same scene. You can say no, that doesn't make it any less weird.
This comment reminded me of my nightmare settlement in FO4 where my companions lived. I had approval maxed with all of them but had turned them down for the relationships. Every time I went to that settlement, they all started slowly converging on me like zombies because the relationship dialogue trigger was maybe bugged and they couldn't take no for an answer. Was really creepy. I wonder if for this there couldn't be some early trigger that would possibly set a friends only status. Maybe in a camp conversation that had something to do with relationships in general and you could say something about having more important things to worry about. After that then there would be no advances by anyone and if you changed your mind later you would have to do a lot of work to get someone interested.
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