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Actually, this is a pretty interesting topic for a couple of reasons. Just looking at the OP's first post - I'd say the second example is fairly tacky, but good body and pretty face (hats off, too, to the chap that coded the physics). I really like the drawings of the girls in the later artwork, though. Doesn't seem sleazy or over-the-top, and it's good art, let's be honest.

I'm not bumping this to endorse the 'sexy armour' thing - I think that's best left to modders. I'm bumping this because I think the female models in some of these fantasy games (eg. dragon age inquisition and now BG3) aren't exactly good looking. Witcher 3, I think, got women right - very feminine looking and attractive for what's effectively a pixelated mannequin. And never over-sexualised, unless it suited the scene. 

Don't really care what women look like in games. But playing dragon age inquisition, it was always at the back of my mind that the female models - in terms of body shape, femininity of the faces etc - were particularly unappealing. Again, they're just pixels - but as the OP demonstrated, pixels can be as easy on the eye as a good painting, even if it's not the real thing.

We've two female companions so far, Shadowheart and Green Girl (forget the name). They're both unattractive. Shadowheart, in particular, has a somewhat masculinised face for a woman - even her arms in the loading screens are sort of male looking. Green Girl - ok, she's an alien elf. But look at the art for Viconia in BG2. The kid version of me wanted her in my party because she looked like that, and it was that simple. Nice voice actress too.

In other words, the girls don't need to have the skimpy armour etc, but I do think they need to look more like the girls in art the OP has posted. Because most girls look sexy, let's be honest - the art isn't embellished. You'll see great looking girls all the time, on the streets, in the pub. Except in dragon age inquisition and BG3, where natural selection went for the plain janes.

I don't even come from a country that's noted for its beautiful women, and there's still a lot more women here who are at least good looking than there are plain janes, or masculinsed women. But if they want to sample average female faces/bodies from any of the Slavic or Baltic countries, I'd biasedly endorse that 100%.

Anyway, it is an interesting topic, as I say. By no means crass at all. The girls in the game shouldn't have to look like they walked off a porn set to be sexy. But they should have the sexy shapes and faces you'd see every day while walking about.






 

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Would people please stay on topic? This thread is dedicated to posting photos of Borat in a thong.

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Originally Posted by mrfuji3
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This thread contains the most vital feedback on this entire forum. I would even say Larian should immediately scrap the budget for all these lavish cinematics we're seeing and instead spend all that money on making pleasing looking female models. It's 'art', people. It's art.

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oh look page 61 of the 5e PHB
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oh yes ! the more I look at the picture in the PHB the more skinnier outfit the girl get ! smile (lol when I saw the atrocity on the 2 next page my mind totally changed smile )
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Originally Posted by PrivateRaccoon
Even though this is high fantasy, I myself, very much approve if they try to keep the armors somewhat realistic. I don't want yet another game treating women as sex objects. I mean come on. In the two examples you choose....why are they even wearing "armor" as it won't protect them from anything. Not even from chilly winds and even less from men staring at them.



As usul diversity would be the best. We went from exclusively objectification of woman (and denying that women too can objetify men) made by men to a control of the female body hid under the "lets not objectify" and made from women (and woke allied men).

Wonder woman is immortal, invulnerable, why should she wear a full body armor? To censor herself because unless she do that men will droll (pretty sure some lesbians would droll too) or other women (and allied woke men) will get offended because seh dares to show her body?

Also i don't see nothing bad with sexification (lets be real we are a sexual species, all we do rely around sex, or absence of it, even asexuality is defined by the paragon with sexuality), it just need to be an option, and one for males and females.

I want the option (and again I miss Daggerfall) to dress my toons as I want, just like I want to see npc with all the variety of body coperture.

I don't like the revised victorian age moralism that has tainted our modern days.

Because we can use all the fancy and progressive words but we are doing is just changing the narrative but still trying to control and cover the body of females (and forgot about that of men, I will develop better this point in another paragraph).

If it is insensate and irrational to think of a warrior or a paladin wearing partial armors* (for those classes armor classes is based on the physical resistence of the heavy armor and doesn't have a dexterity modifier), why should armors that have dexterity modifiers compulsory be full covering?

And what about barbarians and monks whose armor class don't rely on armor?

Or magic classes that have spells wich increase armor class (on the condition no armor is weared)?

As I said: let the player choose, show diversity in how NPCs dress. Sometimes when I play I had the sensation of being in a very conservative sexophobic moralistic society.

And the problem involves male characters too. Just like for the females there must be coherence to the played class, but again I don't get why the must of male bare skin show is only arms, and a bit of chest and niples in the dream scenes.

Maybe I was spoiled by daggerfall in wich you could have your wizard elven follower of the goddess of love and passion going aroun with a mantle, a loincloth, a pair of bracelets, a pair of sandals, and a bag, or your female breton fighter in full plate armor, with a huge tower shield, and you also have the chance to change from fight to civil ropes, with a vaiety of stiles (from the completely reveling, to the modest ones, to the formal ones).

I loved Daggerfall because you could see and interact with npc fully armored, or with formal dresses, just like ones with nothing more than a bikini or a swimtrunk.

Options, that's what is needed, for players to decide how to dress their own characters (I usually play only male characters, with sexuality that cover all the spectrum, I want to be able to play one that uses not revealing clothes, one who instead put the bare minimum just because nudity would be too much, same goes for when I play female characters), Dragon Age, Knights of the old republic, Elders Scrolls (from Morrowind to the online one), The Outer worlds, Fallout, Original Sin I and II, and so on, no choices, like the human body (male or female) is something to be hide like shameful or negative (Indeed in Dragon Age the female characters that have a more revealing dresses are those that clearly are morally ambiguous).


*DnD is a scenography in wich enchanted object exists, some allow feats like talking with animals, talking with the dead, teleport, cast spells you don't know or are not in your class skills, so an armor is not tied to the percentage of body it covers to function because it armor class can be modified by an enchantment.

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No, sometimes it twitches. It could be the maggots though.

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Is it a proof that sex sells even among D&D fans?
Fun fact, my forehead still hurts after I've seen Lae'zel armor. That facepalm. It's literally full plate armor cut in a way to make sure her butt sticks out. I think Larian already went with the spirit of " less is more" when it comes to clothing.


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I don't get the melodramatic eye-rolling about this thread. This is an interesting topic amid columns and colums of arid dross about 'not 5e' this and 'not DnD' that... OP has good taste in art. But besides that, there are some very interesting musings from others about a topic that's become blandly taboo - there's this sheep mentality that objectifying women is wrong, except that human nature being what it is, that will never change. It's ingrained into us to do this, whether you're a drooling pleb or have an IQ of 200.

I find the comments interesting and enlightening - we're crazy creatures when it comes to sex. I've heard and witnessed all sorts over the years - an almost mind-bending request for a threesome from a certain young lady lately has turned my whole perspective on humanity upside down (I thought it would involve two girls and me, it didn't). What drives a woman to literally crave such a thing as two men? There are no answers - but a story around it would be gripping.

In brief, the OP is well-intentioned. The unbelievably 'normal' romance writing in the game is so tepid that it could benefit from reading a few of the very deep perspectives written on this thread to enrich the narrative. Real romance among humans is fairly mad stuff, it's never properly 'conservative', is it?

I don't think a game needs romance anyway, it's too complex a topic and is never done right. But with the right ambition, a writer could potentially create a cracker of story around it. Just my two cents.

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Originally Posted by tsundokugames
no, we don't.


Maybe reply to comments instead of the title bro, or people might think ya be talking through the fissure in yer rectum.

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Originally Posted by roo3030
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no, we don't.


Maybe reply to comments instead of the title bro, or people might think ya be talking through the fissure in yer rectum.

you had no problem understanding me. that's a pretty low bar.

how about: you don't tell me how to post.

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Originally Posted by tsundokugames
no, we don't.


What did I misunderstand about this simple little remark? It's a very small amount of words, isn't it? I've seen a similar amount of teeny tiny little words that paraphrase your little sentence over the course of this thread.

It's trite repetition of the same flaccid 'don't like this post' that's not progressing the topic, negatively or positively - I didn't tell you how to post: but what if I said 'stuff your insecurities up the same fissure I referenced above, my friend'?

Saying so achieves the same result I'm protesting against: antagonism for the sake of antagonism. In other words, if you've nothing to contribute, why comment? This is a good thread. If you think it isn't, at least expand on 'me no like'.

And I'm not telling ya how to f**king post either - it's an invitation to debate. Like adults, right?

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Roo3030, reel it in. A lot.

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Pretty dresses for big tiddy drow cleric pc pls larian

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