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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217646
29/04/04 03:52 AM
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no, it will not be buggy, and that is a bad thing to say, keep on returning things for not working and getting a new thing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/memad.gif" alt="" />



Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217647
29/04/04 07:53 AM
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Lews please don't take my comments to heart. I was actually being ironic with a healthy dose of sarcasm. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" /> I think the smileys might have thrown you off.

Anyway, Yaaj does have a very valid point though. Even though I think it's kind of funny that he went ahead and bought Beyond Divinity from the same people that delivered Divine Divinity (so the game wasn't that bad after all eh Yaaj?), he did illustrate a few issues with the game industry as a whole.

Games nowadays are very buggy. Many developers are guilty of this. I remember my outrage when after years of waiting for Ultima 9 to only discover it to be a buggy, broken disgrace of a game. Even Richard Garriot, the founder of the Ultima series, walked out on it. It took three patches and a fan patch to finally fix the thing. Let's not even mention the state of Deus Ex 2.

I've sort of accepted the fact that's the way the industry is: either games are rushed out to coincide with a major holiday season or developers have trouble catering for the myriad of PC configurations out there. Yaaj's post prompted me to think: does it have to be this way? Of course not. I don't mind the odd bug here and there - it's the critical, "saved games won't load" sort of bugs that really get to me. The latter case happened to me in Divine Divinity. Luckily for me a reinstall fixed the issue. A few other people on the forums reported the same issues, but I digress.

The point is Yaaj paid for the game rightfully expecting it to have what it stated on the box. It didn't and left CDV open to lawsuits. So hopefully CDV will learn to have more vague blurbs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

Anyway Yaaj, I hope you enjoy Beyond Divinity as I'm sure the dev team did their best just as they did with Divine Divinity.

edit: grammar



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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217648
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@yaaj: Some of your inflamatory comments aside I have to say I respect your single minded pursuit of what you felt was right. I put up with the bugs in DD simply because I enjoyed the overall game so much that they didnt really detract from the whole game. That aside, as a consumer you DO have the right to expect what you are promised, and when it is not delivered you are legally protected by being able to expect a refund. I guess the depressing thing is that you shouldnt have had to sue to get it, it should have been smilingly forthcoming in each case, without having to resort to litigation. Still, your uncompromsing stance on the principle is kind of refreshing.

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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217649
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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217650
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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217651
29/04/04 08:02 PM
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oh yeah, well, theyre going out of bussness fasrt, preobably cantspeakr your money.


Anyone want to help me out here? I've read and reread this poorly structured sentence five times now, an I still have no idea what this fool is trying to say.

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6> actually it is 2. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />


From the looks of it basic math is lost on you. I suggest you reread everything I've posted and add up the amount of skills that are broken for me. Now I know math can be a hard concept for some people to grasp, so I took a few minutes and found a website that will help you. http://www.aaamath.com/B/grade1.htm Now don't feel ashamed if you gotta use your hands to help you count. Our base-10 math system is, afterall, based off of us Humans using our hands to count. After a few months of study you should be able to count up too 100 without having to use your hands to help you keep track.

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and is that SUCH a big deal you will sue?


I suggest you reread evevrything I've post until you can comprehend why I got a refund on this game.

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sometimes I want to swim accross the pacific, atlantic, and sea of indian ocenas just to get to a civilized place were my classmates and fellow countrymen aren't a bunch of jackass idiots. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> for our portfolioes in art 1 kid said on his "WAR ON IRAQ" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/down.gif" alt="" />


Go right ahead. Do you really think I care what you do? If you're really serious about wanting to leave this country contact me via PMs and I'll buy you a one way plane ticket to anywhere you'd like to go. We don't need anymore idiots investing our gene pool, so it would be my honor to move you out of this country.

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and others say earthday is just for a bunch of loses to say 'save the earth'
good idea! lets sue everyone, and trash the earth, maybe THEN we'll have a nice world, huh? oh, just lets make sure, ATTACK! hmm, lets not good worried. "the fights over people, its all good" BAM BAM BAM "ok we were wrong, but its not so big" BOOM! "ok, more troops needed!" lets wreck society just a 'tad' bit more, eh?


I have no idea what this last "paragraph" (I used quote because as you can see grammer is seriously lost on this guy) has to do with anything. So I'll just ignore it.

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BLOODDY FRIGGEN HELL YOU SUCK AMERICA!


And which America would that be? North America, Central America, or South America?

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and unlike Eminem, no, im NOT just playin' with you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/suspicion.gif" alt="" />


Thanks. That makes me flaming you a whole lot easier.

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<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />but what I also don't like is people saying ALL Americans are bad, just as examples look at Mslynx and look at me, and MOST of the other Americans! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puppyeyes.gif" alt="" />


No. It's you, and people like you, that makes the Unitied States look bad. It's you people that are the reason why other counties has the imopression that all "americans" are fat, lazy, ignorant, and uneducated. Since I persoanally don't know you I can't honestly call you fat or lazy, but you are both ignorant and uneducated. Spend some time teaching yourself outside of this countries crappy schooling system - the basics of math and grammer will do you well. Also you might consider taking a trip to Amsterdam and spending a few months there, it should help you out with your ignorant trait of yours - unless you're one of those inbred rednecks from the South then there's really no help for you but a bullet in the head.

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Yaaj, you scored a pretty sweet deal there

In essence you got a free copy of Beyond Divinity. Chances are this game will be buggy as well so if you do the same thing again, you might get a free copy of Divine Divinity 2 and so on and so forth. Yaaj, you've got it made

Maybe you should consider a career in 'Law' Yaaj, with people like you dodgey or buggy games will be a thing of the past.


You know I was going to retort with some witty sarcasm of my own, but I won't. After reading what you've posted after this post I only have one thing to say to you. Thanks you taking a few minutes out of your life and trying to understand where I'm coming from.

Oh and LordPanda. The only reason why I bought Beyhond was the fact that Larian went with a different publisher. Now I'm not all that familer with HipGames, but I have bought one of their games that they've published in the past. My one experience with that one game has taught me that they do offer full support to their developers. So Larian should have no problems working out the last remaining bugs in Beyhond.

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Some of your inflamatory comments aside I have to say I respect your single minded pursuit of what you felt was right. I put up with the bugs in DD simply because I enjoyed the overall game so much that they didnt really detract from the whole game. That aside, as a consumer you DO have the right to expect what you are promised, and when it is not delivered you are legally protected by being able to expect a refund. I guess the depressing thing is that you shouldnt have had to sue to get it, it should have been smilingly forthcoming in each case, without having to resort to litigation. Still, your uncompromsing stance on the principle is kind of refreshing.


Thanks, Mandrake. Sometimes I fear the only way we, the customers, will ever make a change in this industry is by class-action law suits. Complaining on boards isn't doing anything, sueing developers/publishers for refunds isn't doing anything (and yes I'm not the only ones that has done this), and even voting with our dollars isn't doing anything, and it won't as long as us fans keep buying any half-finished beta that gets released - just look at Ascaron's latest release.

Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217652
29/04/04 08:34 PM
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Long post Yaaj. Some decent points too, especially about Sacred. Patch patch patch..... It may turn out ok though. I might even play it again when they fix it properly.

Complaining on the boards works here believe me. The Larians are very responsive to requests made here.

As to the ethics of sueing game companies over 50 bucks. I'll leave that argument alone. You seem hell-bent on teaching them a lession. Noble in principle but rather a waste of my time.

Don't worry about Lews, he's just ranting till he gets his copy of <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" />. I'm sure that will pacify him..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" />

The gene pool doesn't really have much to do with how ignorant people become. Good old american TV is to blame for that. Latest survey showed kids raised on TV were more likely to have ADD.....

What was I saying again? OOOO! A talking pineapple! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/silly.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217653
29/04/04 10:29 PM
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@ Jangutt: You forgot to mention my breath smells like mice too, and moths, I like moths. Well except for the wings, I just leave those lying around for humans to clean up when they're cleaning up mouseleftovers <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/winkwink.gif" alt="" />

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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217654
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Have you tried frogs? I've heard good things about them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217655
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The only reason why I bought Beyhond was the fact that Larian went with a different publisher. Now I'm not all that familer with HipGames, but I have bought one of their games that they've published in the past. My one experience with that one game has taught me that they do offer full support to their developers. So Larian should have no problems working out the last remaining bugs in Beyond


D'oh! You got me there Yaaj! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ouch.gif" alt="" /> I stand corrected! HIP Games are the new publishers and from what I've read and heard, they are a pretty decent mob.

Oh well better quit while I'm behind <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217656
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I tried licking a frog once but something wierd happened. I started halucinating and thought I was a dog *Mandrakes fur is ruffed up in fear* It was horrible.

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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217657
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WAAHAHAHAHHAHAA

Yaaj..i've read this whole topic..

and it's hilarious

hahaha <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />



your really pathetic
maybe you should get yourself a girlfriend or something
you are really overreacting with this

if the game wouldnt install or crashed every 10 minutes..i would say your right...but just because of this?????


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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217658
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WAAHAHAHAHHAHAA

Yaaj..i've read this whole topic..

and it's hilarious

hahaha <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/delight.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ROFL.gif" alt="" />



your really pathetic
maybe you should get yourself a girlfriend or something
you are really overreacting with this

if the game wouldnt install or crashed every 10 minutes..i would say your right...but just because of this?????


Then I suggest you re-read everything. This time pronounce the bigger words out loud - in your case the ones with more then one syllable. You'll quickly see that the game does crash on me when a select few skills are used. In any event I'm sorry you can't comprehend the reasons why I got a refund on this game. Don't feel sorry for yourself because you can't. Some people don't quite have as much intelligence then others, and I know for some people the reason I got a refund is a hard concept to grasp. It's okay. Someday, with some work on your end, you'll understand.

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hmm...mu iq is over 140 so dont. talk to me about intelligence...

but if it crashes when using that skill.....then why don't you just simply "don't use that skill"???


there is so mucht more in DD than those fwe skills...


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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217660
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It is rather pointless to re-start the discussion - it has all been said before, and all points have been made. Wether to share them or not, is up to each individual's opinion.


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Re: Trying the game again for the 4th time. #217661
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It is rather pointless to re-start the discussion - it has all been said before, and all points have been made. Wether to share them or not, is up to each individual's opinion.

Agreed. It's not good insulting each other. It doesn't do anything except start flame wars.

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I faced similar problem.

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