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Re: Companion Stats Changed - Astarion / Shadowheart thoughts? Soulcoin #743410 08/12/20 09:18 PM
Joined: Mar 2020 KillerRabbit veteran
KillerRabbit veteran Joined: Mar 2020	In terms of combat the stats are considerably better -- I can now use Shadowheart the way I tend to use clerics -- as a casters. In terms of role play? SH seems smarter than 8. Minsc is an 8. In terms of game play? We need something like a bull's strength spell or item. Only Lae'zel can get at that ruby now and I wants my precious. Slightly OT but Shadowheart's spells should be changed to necrotic bolt and ebon flame. It's strange to see a cleric of darkness blasting enemies with the power of light.

Re: Companion Stats Changed - Astarion / Shadowheart thoughts? KillerRabbit #743413 08/12/20 09:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2020 Location: void Verte enthusiast
Verte enthusiast Joined: Nov 2020 Location: void	Originally Posted by KillerRabbit Slightly OT but Shadowheart's spells should be changed to necrotic bolt and ebon flame. It's strange to see a cleric of darkness blasting enemies with the power of light. Makes sense if she has a chance to be brainwashed selunite. Flarings looks bright to me. It would be hilarious after all her mockings about selune.

Re: Companion Stats Changed - Astarion / Shadowheart thoughts? 1varangian #743470 08/12/20 11:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2020 B Bruh Banned
Bruh Banned B Joined: Dec 2020	Originally Posted by 1varangian Why are they fiddling around with the stats like they don't know what they mean? Astarion clearly has a higher charisma but lower wisdom. 8 Strength seems low too. Vampire spawns are physically strong. But this one is as weak as it gets. Shadowheart is not dumb as a boot. Her dexterity increase went way over the top this time. She also doesn't seem that charismatic or leader-like, 10 or 12 Cha would be enough. I don't care about min / maxing. I just want their stats to reflect their personalities and actual ability. I dont see any justification for lowering Astarion's wisdom based on his displays of character. He is neither absentminded, nor a fool.

Re: Companion Stats Changed - Astarion / Shadowheart thoughts? Evandir #743727 09/12/20 05:41 PM
Joined: Oct 2020 T Topgoon enthusiast
Topgoon enthusiast T Joined: Oct 2020	Originally Posted by Evandir Originally Posted by Firesnakearies Originally Posted by Topgoon the ability to multiclass into a Barbarian (haha) Barbarian/rogue is awesome in 5e. Yeah, it seems like a really cool combo. I think he was mostly just laughing at the idea of astarion as a barbarian lol. 100% this. Astarion's definitely the most posh companion IMO and picturing him as a raging barbarian made me chuckle. Barring a proper character arc, it does feel off to me though from a RP standpoint. Mechanically, Barbarian/Rogue in 5e is indeed a strong combo. I don't know if it'll be as good in BG3 currently, since you don't really need Reckless Attack as much to gain advantage.

Re: Companion Stats Changed - Astarion / Shadowheart thoughts? Verte #743747 09/12/20 06:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2020 KillerRabbit veteran
KillerRabbit veteran Joined: Mar 2020	Originally Posted by Verte Originally Posted by KillerRabbit Slightly OT but Shadowheart's spells should be changed to necrotic bolt and ebon flame. It's strange to see a cleric of darkness blasting enemies with the power of light. Makes sense if she has a chance to be brainwashed selunite. Flarings looks bright to me. It would be hilarious after all her mockings about selune. True. Would be nice to have option to ask about that. So, why so many light spells 'Shadowheart'?

Re: Companion Stats Changed - Astarion / Shadowheart thoughts? Bruh #743778 09/12/20 08:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2014 1varangian veteran
1varangian veteran Joined: Aug 2014	Originally Posted by Bruh Originally Posted by 1varangian Why are they fiddling around with the stats like they don't know what they mean? Astarion clearly has a higher charisma but lower wisdom. 8 Strength seems low too. Vampire spawns are physically strong. But this one is as weak as it gets. Shadowheart is not dumb as a boot. Her dexterity increase went way over the top this time. She also doesn't seem that charismatic or leader-like, 10 or 12 Cha would be enough. I don't care about min / maxing. I just want their stats to reflect their personalities and actual ability. I dont see any justification for lowering Astarion's wisdom based on his displays of character. He is neither absentminded, nor a fool. First time you meet him he threatens you with a dagger even if you have an alien warrior and a cleric in Shar armor standing next to you. The only reason he survives that encounter is basically Larian not offering a dialogue choice to kill him. He then sneaks up on you at night trying to suck your blood when your entire team is there in camp. He is a fool and I can see him being vulnerable to temptation.

Re: Companion Stats Changed - Astarion / Shadowheart thoughts? 1varangian #743791 09/12/20 08:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2020 B Bruh Banned
Bruh Banned B Joined: Dec 2020	Originally Posted by 1varangian First time you meet him he threatens you with a dagger even if you have an alien warrior and a cleric in Shar armor standing next to you. The only reason he survives that encounter is basically Larian not offering a dialogue choice to kill him. He then sneaks up on you at night trying to suck your blood when your entire team is there in camp. He is a fool and I can see him being vulnerable to temptation. To be fair, the meeting scene is obviously Larian's fault, and yeah the camp scene is weird.

Re: Companion Stats Changed - Astarion / Shadowheart thoughts? Bruh #743814 09/12/20 08:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2020 Choosen of KEK member
Choosen of KEK member Joined: Oct 2020	Originally Posted by Bruh yeah the camp scene is weird. "It is not what you think, I am a vampire" was the best thing in BG3 for me so far since throwable squirrel.

Re: Companion Stats Changed - Astarion / Shadowheart thoughts? Choosen of KEK #743847 09/12/20 10:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2020 P Piff addict
Piff addict P Joined: Nov 2020	Originally Posted by Choosen of KEK "It is not what you think, I am a vampire" was the best thing in BG3 for me so far since throwable squirrel. I still hold out hope for a "Oh, a strange man, come to my bedroll in the night! sexy pose, whatever could you be doing here, sir?" conversation option.

Re: Companion Stats Changed - Astarion / Shadowheart thoughts? Soulcoin #743906 10/12/20 09:58 AM
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CamKitty member C Joined: Jan 2017	Still pretty sure the creators have not played much DnD given the builds of their characters

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