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Its not because he is a barrel-chested beefcake - although that doesn't hurt. Its because Halsin is literally the first person you meet who is actually concerned for your well-being AND what we call a well-adjusted person.

This leads to an over-arching complaint about the other companions and that is they all basically just suck as people. Someone started a thread saying that they couldn't see why we were chosen as the party leading given various personalities. And it finally occurred to me that without your leadership every single one of these people would end up dead very quickly.

Gale would find some dangerous magical thing and poke it and end up dead.

Shadowheart would walk off a cliff giving the stink-eye to a porcupine that she thought was staring at her.

Lae-zel would have been eaten by Goblins or hung by the tieflings for being over-aggressive and arrogant.

Wyll - convinced of his own legend would take on the Goblins solo and end up eaten.

Astarion would end up dead trying to drink blood from some rando person or captured by his master or in service to another powerful entity who can protect him.

These aren't adventuring companions, they are people that need a life-assistant or they end up strangling themselves trying to put pants on!

That is when they are not in "disapproval mode" of every single decision you make.

Then you meet Halsin, the first person in the ENTIRE game who is focused on the bigger picture, gives you good advice, shows actual concern for your well-being...and yes he is a giant hunk of man. But its so NICE just to have an honest, respectful conversation with a normal person...who can turn into a bear sometimes. I found myself thinking, I would gladly trade every single one of these idiots to just go off adventuring with Halsin. Like, if someone offered me half of an opened mustard packet for the lot of them I would take the deal.

Like I have already decided, despite anything else Karlach is going with me, because she is already 1000 x better - personality-wise - than any of the other companions. Me, Karlach, Halsin and whoever else....we will have a nice chill adventure and be respectful of each other just crackin'-wise and kickin' butts..

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Originally Posted by Blackheifer
Gale would find some dangerous magical thing and poke it and end up dead.

Shadowheart would walk off a cliff giving the stink-eye to a porcupine that she thought was staring at her.

Lae-zel would have been eaten by Goblins or hung by the tieflings for being over-aggressive and arrogant.

Wyll - convinced of his own legend would take on the Goblins solo and end up eaten.

Astarion would end up dead trying to drink blood from some rando person or captured by his master or in service to another powerful entity who can protect him.
Oh my ...
I cant even imagine how hard this game become, when we finaly will be allowed to play Origin characters (if Larian somehow force us to stay "in character") ...
Feel free to read it as: "When there will no longer be our custom-made saviour." laugh

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I liked original spellcasting system more ... frown

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Originally Posted by Blackheifer
Gale would find some dangerous magical thing and poke it and end up dead.

Shadowheart would walk off a cliff giving the stink-eye to a porcupine that she thought was staring at her.

Lae-zel would have been eaten by Goblins or hung by the tieflings for being over-aggressive and arrogant.

Wyll - convinced of his own legend would take on the Goblins solo and end up eaten.

Astarion would end up dead trying to drink blood from some rando person or captured by his master or in service to another powerful entity who can protect him.

These aren't adventuring companions, they are people that need a life-assistant or they end up strangling themselves trying to put pants on!

dunno about Halsin in particular but you've just perfectly outlined why I don't like any of the current companions.

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Trying a bit too hard here.

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Originally Posted by Blackheifer
Its not because he is a barrel-chested beefcake - although that doesn't hurt. Its because Halsin is literally the first person you meet who is actually concerned for your well-being AND what we call a well-adjusted person.

This leads to an over-arching complaint about the other companions and that is they all basically just suck as people. Someone started a thread saying that they couldn't see why we were chosen as the party leading given various personalities. And it finally occurred to me that without your leadership every single one of these people would end up dead very quickly.

Gale would find some dangerous magical thing and poke it and end up dead.

Shadowheart would walk off a cliff giving the stink-eye to a porcupine that she thought was staring at her.

Lae-zel would have been eaten by Goblins or hung by the tieflings for being over-aggressive and arrogant.

Wyll - convinced of his own legend would take on the Goblins solo and end up eaten.

Astarion would end up dead trying to drink blood from some rando person or captured by his master or in service to another powerful entity who can protect him.

These aren't adventuring companions, they are people that need a life-assistant or they end up strangling themselves trying to put pants on!

That is when they are not in "disapproval mode" of every single decision you make.


Then you meet Halsin, the first person in the ENTIRE game who is focused on the bigger picture, gives you good advice, shows actual concern for your well-being...and yes he is a giant hunk of man. But its so NICE just to have an honest, respectful conversation with a normal person...who can turn into a bear sometimes. I found myself thinking, I would gladly trade every single one of these idiots to just go off adventuring with Halsin. Like, if someone offered me half of an opened mustard packet for the lot of them I would take the deal.

Like I have already decided, despite anything else Karlach is going with me, because she is already 1000 x better - personality-wise - than any of the other companions. Me, Karlach, Halsin and whoever else....we will have a nice chill adventure and be respectful of each other just crackin'-wise and kickin' butts..


Hey, I am not even that much against our current companions - personally I think their characters make sense (most of the time) and I find them fun although my character loathes (or pities) the whole bunch of them. The one I am struggling the most with from a RP perspective is SH - I really cannot see any reason my ranger wouldn't just leave her behind (which I'll admit, my PC usually does). Not quite romance-material for me though.

BUT, you make a valid point and I agree with the GENERAL idea of the overview (although I do not necessarily see it as a bad thing). Halsin does come off as the only individual around that could properly take care of himself and shows some genuine concern for PC.

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Heh, I strongly suspect Halsin has his own secrets or skeletons in the closet... am I reading too much into his conversation about where you go next, or is he somehow responsible for the Shadow Curse? Maybe?

I just don't trust ANYONE who seems nice or normal in this game. laugh

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No, it's because he's tall. Although I honestly prefer Astarion, his dastardly plan is much closer to me. Burning cities together will be fun!


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It is also great that he is a druid and an elf. A buff guy protecting nature can't be beat! smile

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Me, Karlach, Halsin and whoever else....we will have a nice chill adventure and be respectful of each other just crackin'-wise and kickin' butts..
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I just don't trust ANYONE who seems nice or normal in this game. laugh
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I don’t love him.


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Furthermore I think his decision to travel with the charname has no reasonable motivation and feels a bit off.


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Furthermore I think his decision to travel with the charname has no reasonable motivation and feels a bit off.
He just before decided to travel with bunch of adventurers ...
How i our bunch anyhow worse? O_o


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He also has already been studying the parasites and wanted to go to Moonrise / the shadow cursed land for his own purposes. Seems he's got his own motivations and even says something about your quests aligning.

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Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
He just before decided to travel with bunch of adventurers ...
Not adventurers, mercenaries. Not travel, but visiting a location few kms away.

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He also has already been studying the parasites and wanted to go to Moonrise / the shadow cursed land for his own purposes. Seems he's got his own motivations and even says something about your quests aligning.
And he leaves his fellow druids in peril with no obvious leaders except the derailed one who’s obviously not to be trusted after what she has done. But to hell with it, adventure time!


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No one said he was without fault. After Kagha he calls in someone else to take over, which could end up bad for the grove but we'll have to wait and see how that turns out. Also, I vaguely remember the shadow curse thing having something to do with a family member? Like there was a hint in one of the books scattered around the grove but was later removed, so that storyline is probably being changed. Anyway, his motives could be deeply personal to him and perhaps make him act rashly and without proper consideration. People make stupid decisions because emotions all the time.

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I like him as a character - he, Alfira and Karlach would make my perfect party from the characters we already know.


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Originally Posted by VenusP
Originally Posted by RagnarokCzD
He just before decided to travel with bunch of adventurers ...
Not adventurers, mercenaries. Not travel, but visiting a location few kms away.
Yes travel ...
He specificly tells you that he intented to follow them to Selune temple, where they all wanted to search for entrance to underdark. O_o


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He just before decided to travel with bunch of adventurers ...
Not adventurers, mercenaries. Not travel, but visiting a location few kms away.

Are there locations a few km away in the game? As far as I can tell, the entire game takes place within one square km.

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Originally Posted by Droata
Are there locations a few km away in the game? As far as I can tell, the entire game takes place within one square km.
I think we're supposed to pretend that the Act 1 map is in reality much larger. Otherwise, it's ludicrous that the goblins couldn't find the Druid Grove which is literally a 1-minute walk away from the Blighted Village.

Instead of having separately zoned areas (such as in BG1&2, Pathfinder Kingmaker) where you fast-travel between them, Larian games combine multiple separate areas into a single map for convenience I guess? Less loading times?

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