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*sigh* i wish i could say the same frown

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I was too, but lack of any real communication is wearing on me. I've played so much of it and chatted so much about the same issues with NO responses from Larian. Its just disheartening. Are they going to implement ANYone's suggestions?

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Yeah and being that my big issues with the game are more structural than anything (IE not the sort of thing that really gets fixed in Early Access), I'm left being not too optimistic about the final result frown

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Larion is horrible for communication and new patch info if you havent figured it out theres no one really covering the game at the moment because everyones gotten bored of not having new toys. I only even check back like every few days now to see if theres notes on a new patch cause its gotten boring that there has been zero updates. I switched to playing other stuff. It was ok for a but but were over due a patch by about a month now. Its disheartening to see there lack of communication and effort. To keep people up todate with a road map. Of all the companies putting out games at the moment despite the game is good. Larion is the worst overall for communication.

They release such small amounts of stuff in patches as well currently that when things are updated they dont give people enough to do to last 3 -4 months while they patch 1 new addition it feels like they should be alot more efficient for content additions by this point. When games like pathfinder are releaseing like 4 classes full set of new visuals additional story content and a full wave of things to keep people busy and people haven even finished the beta access content. Meanwhile larion is releasing small patchs fixing 4-5 bugs and then you get nothing new really. Its the biggest disappointment about the game. The next time the release new content people might not even notice for a month at the rate things are going.

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Yeah I really don't get why they don't have a roadmap. Even one without dates. Seems like such an obvious thing to do.

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Yeah I really don't get why they don't have a roadmap. Even one without dates. Seems like such an obvious thing to do.

it is something obvious that should be addressed i brought it up several months ago there was alot of dispute that it wasnt needed ect ect. Larion has never addressed ever in any discussions that I have found anywhere online about producing a road map and currently I wouldnt expect it they are the worst of the CRPG companies for communication with people. Even the people who were regularly releasing news to the public have disassociated with the game for the time being because its bad for streamers content wise unless your felicia day and you can get 5000 people viewing you no matter what you play / do then its a negative to stream content for you you would lose money doing it.

I use to stream it stopped streaming content for it because it just became not worth it. Not because the game is bad just the content is stale and larions communication makes it even worst. You get around 20-80 viewers at peek. When we had a new content patch it went up to around 160-320. But alot of people didnt revisit it as well. I know a few other people who streamed it that are bigger end that didnt revisit it with the last patch cause there just wasnt enough added to entice them. I revisited it but i finished all the new content in about 2 weeks and ran out of new options to give me enough emph to keep playing it without news I dont think ill bother playing it again till a new patch and if its during the summer I with things where I live opening up more so I may not even bother playing over the summer. I would need alot of content to have a chance to be worth taking time off being outside to come in and play the game even for a few hours.

There are alot of people who play it there preferred classes are not even in the game let alone races. Which is a big downside. At 4 months a patch they really should be doing more and a road map is a minimum start to what they should be doing.

The lack of roadmap personally as a player for me is very dissappointing even if they dont make the target dates its the effort they put in that matters. Larion basically hasnt made an effort. I went and put 780.00 on a kickstarter for a different game just because the game litterly had a road map to all the content they were releaseing with timelines for it because they promisted a minimum of at least news on any delays. Thats the thing with BG 3 thats dissapointing we have no idea what is even being worked on let alone an idea whats coming out.

This is my opinion only but if they wanted to show they cared about what people thought you would see things like "We are going to be releasing paladin next, our estimate is june 12th we are also working on barbarian to follow it up in august and around sept / november we have orcs and sorcerers in the works" even if they didnt make the date listed coming on and saying hey were running a little late due to delays is fine.

Druid came out and they got given some head way. Saying hey we can load content up faster. So alot of people let it slide they had been waiting 5 months for a content patch here we got the same thing happening again. I would be surpised if Felica day was hired to stream it to keep people interested. Not to say that is the truth because I honestly wouldnt know that but it would be a tactic i could see used to keep interest. Because there content release rate is abysmal its bad. Its like bottom of the barrel bad for a company that came out saying we are releasing this because we love DND. You would expect at least test versions of content to come out alot faster when they say that and to want to be way more engaged with people.

Hearthstone...Im just using this as an example they have a much smaller developement team. Despite being with blizzard entertainment the specific team that handles that game is much smaller. The director intereacts with fans once a week. The developement team releases news every week once outside that with upcoming content changes that are being looked at ect.

It would be nice to see that kind of effort from larion where they came in here and ran a q&a weekly with the forums especially since its there own forums. Even if they dont give you a clear cut answer it would show an effort. Or teasing little things without giving to much information thats what we should be seeing. I am sure there are tons of people would love to interview the developers who stream once a week. It doesnt just boost larion it boosts the streamer they are speaking to so.

Communication is larions worst aspect as a design team.

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Same here I started a youtube channel 1 year ago and as a fan, I made a lot of video about BG3.

It's a very small channel, I'm learning how it works but it's clear that players are really hyped about the game.
As soon as there are new informations to share I have a lot of view/new subscriber but 3 monthes without any interresting informations is way too much to keep the hype really high.

With a roadmap and even small communication every 2/4 weeks (data, employees interview or anything else),
I guess big/good BG3 youtuber/streamer like Wolfheart could keep the hype at 150% during the whole EA without it ever going down.

But hey... After you streamed your grandmother playing the game... What else can you do if devs aren't giving you something ?

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If you look at general life expectency of content its typically around 1 month with just a new class and nothing else sometimes youll toy with that get 1 extra month out of it at that point your done. While there was work done playing 1-3 characters on average per play through your dulling out last patch added druid which was nice it gave us things to play around with for a bit it was nice, but most of us expected a little more than druid and 4-5 items after 5 months of waiting. In comparison to the WOTR release after 2 months you see 5 classes racial updates character designer updates dozens of new items additional zones like the amount of content was alot more on net for a shorter period of time. I personally get it if they were improving the load time for content but now were going on 4 months again after they statement myself I was expecting like april teaser content. Were heading into june nothing new thats not promising.

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E3 in two weeks, so I doubt we'll get anything until then smile

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I think I will play Biomutant while I wait for the next communication.

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Anything new happening. Nope I didn't think so.

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I just hope this doesn't end like Vampires bloodlines 2.

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Originally Posted by Bufotenina
I just hope this doesn't end like Vampires bloodlines 2.

Totally different situation. This is Larians only real project now. They have 7 Studios working on it. Paradox has their hands in 20 cookie jars and had contracted out Bloodlines to another studio that didn't meet their timelines and now they have a mess on their hands. Big studios with too many projects are a blight on the gaming landscape, especially RPG's which are high-investment projects.


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That can never happen ...
Larians are developing the game themselves, Paradox hired HSL to do the job ...
And as it seems, they didnt check too often. :-/


I liked original spellcasting system more ... frown

Anyway ... i cast Eldritch Blast!
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Originally Posted by Bufotenina
I just hope this doesn't end like Vampires bloodlines 2.

Poor communication from Larian, but it can't be denied development is happening. Plus, Wizards is likely being kept in the loop.

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Originally Posted by Bufotenina
I just hope this doesn't end like Vampires bloodlines 2.

Unlikely cause this is the main project of Larian, and rn their budget is fairly big and their timeframe ostensibly just as big. If this game does not finish, even poorly, that'd have to be because of some big disaster.

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Their biggest problem might be over-ambition and lack of focus. Looking through all their job specs ( basically, looking for just about every game dev role ), and the way they keep adding new studios while not really saying very much about what they are actually doing, suggests to me that the project may be expanding like a spider web; but with less control smile

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While believable based on the logic you present, that would be very weird since this game is looking like it'll end up similar in size to DOS 2, which they apparently completed just fine.

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Also the studio they just added worked with Larian previously on porting DOS2 to the Switch, so if anything this move was more of a consolidation. The other studios can focus on the game development and not worry about porting.

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Ultimately I think Larian just wanted two bites at the apple in terms of sales. EA release day sales and "real" release day sales. Since they've got a huge fanbase from DOS 2 they can easily pull that off and ignore the forumites like myself who want actual engagement, since we're likely few and far between. It was just a way for them to get more money sooner.

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