Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Camp supplies mechanic

If we want inventory management to be less annoying (and I do) why don’t we focus on the original sin: having millions of containers and too much loot EVERYWHERE.
This is what should be addressed.

I keep sending food to the camp and when the time comes for long rest, I don't find anything anymore of what I've been sending on and on, impossible to benefit from it. Did I understand something wrong about that?

As a complete insomniac, finding food in order to sleep is like dark humor.

To me it just feels like a chore--and I have enough of those in real life. The original BGs allowed resting as needed, with only the occasional random encounter as a deterrent. I really don't think this was the way to diverge from the earlier games. I'm not seeing the fun at all. With concentration, disadvantage, and random failure already limiting the effectiveness of casters who need to prepare spells, I don't see at will resting as a problem. The interruption caused by camping is a sufficient deterrent.

Edit: because typing is hard

The system is way too forgiving and exceedingly generous with the resources required, but if nothing else its very introduction contributed to get rid of the festering wound that was having food as a healing source.

I have honestly no idea of how anyone could genuinely feel “restricted” by the current implementation of supplies and rhe complaint about the TRIVIAL inconvenience of having to occasionally do a five seconds detour to your stash to pick up something you send there (IF you weren’t bright enough to keep sufficient food on yourselves for a single rest) are honestly a bit ridiculous.

You even have a fucking counter in the corner of your inventory telling you at any given time exactly how many supplies you are carrying, so it takes almost active effort to be taken by surprise.

Consider the amount of completely pointless clicks you do over a the span of a game in order to pick up all the foodstuffs and then have them sent to camp to avoid carrying a whole bunch of pointless weight around with low strength characters and then having the right amount of supplies picked up when you get back to camp.

Yes, one can do this much easier when one has played through the EA a few times and know pretty much exactly what you need and what you can leave behind, and how to exploit everything, and how much money you're going to need, and what heavy loot you really don't have to bother with because you might as well just save-scum and pickpocket the merchants for money. Sure. I agree.

But for someone who hasn't built that knowledge, who cannot metagame quite that much, it adds up to quite a lot of completely pointless clicking that serves no real purpose whatsoever. It would be a lot better, I think, if camp supplies was an abstract resource that got handled behind the scenes, and whenever we pick up the foodstuffs, the supplies counter goes up, the item disappears, and utterly meaningless player hassle is kept to a minimum.

To be extremely blunt, having to pick up and inventory manage food is really not adding any value whatsoever to the game. Taking healing away from food is good, but making players mess around with food items to sleep is forcing players to play inventory management rather than playing the core part of game.

What I find absurd about the complain is that micro-management was NOT increased with the last update.
The supply system is mostly automated, moving outside of the automated process takes a couple of clicks.

Dulcis in fundo, you have LESS reasons than before to carry your food around, not more of them.

Where the hell is the "micro-management" exactly? Right clicking to send food to camp? That's optional and it was always there.

Not to mention the DELIRIOUS claims of people who say they feel "restricted" by this new system. Half way through Act 1 I had enough "supplies" saved up that could probably last me for the entire game (post-release), twice, and that's if I was being almost pornographically WASTEFUL with my food.

Your tone is becoming rather hostile. Referring to other people's feelings as "delirious" is hardly going to make for a remotely constructive conversation, is it?

Carrying food around takes weight in the inventory, and that weight is a precious resource now. Sending food items to camp is something you can do one item at a time, which is such a 90's style UI thing, and then every time you rest, you have to run off to your personal storage and pick some stuff up, and then send whatever you don't use back to camp afterwards.

And of course you have to actually pick up all this junk for the sole purpose of having it in camp so you can rest. And if you don't do it then you can't rest effectively. Further, do consider that the supply of it doesn't explode unless you either pickpocket or raid either the gobbo camp or the risen road area. That's where the majority of the food happens to be. There's some in the broken village, a bit in the bandit camp in the temple, and not exactly huge amounts to be easily lifted from the druids. And obviously, once you know this, your stance towards camp supplies changes. Once you know this. In other words, to try and encourage people to "not cheese", we've just implemented a mechanic that rewards metagaming and thus cheesing.

And even when you know what you should pick up and what you should leave, you still have to waste a bunch of times picking up all that junk, and what's actual the gain? How does it benefit my gameplay in any conceivable way to do that particular bit of clickety-clicking? The brutally honest answer is, it does not. The game is not in any way more fun for me because I have to pick up some useless junk to be able to rest, but every second I waste on it and every click I make to that extent is a second and a click that isn't spent on the part of the game that actually is rewarding.