Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback Parental Discretion Feature

Wait a minute. Now, I'm not sure if you are just trolling. Since you said you are 44 and not mature enough. How does nudity and swear affect you unless you are a very morale or religious person?

I mean, I play a lot of mature games with a lot of mature content in them; I enjoy adult games and I'm no stranger to nudity, sex, violence, non-consent, torture and other heavy adult themes, and in the right contexts I have no objection to them. I even pursue tittles with that kind of content, fairly often. I'm probably right on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum here compared to GM4Him in terms of this kind of stuff...

But when I play and have to deal with language where creatures are being excessively crude for the sake of being excessively crude - more than is even really believable; where they're referencing sexual acts and clearly intended them as insults, or referring to others as various sexual organs, and clearly intending those as insults.... I find that just... off-putting. It's quite possible to convey that these people are rude, crude and uncouth without all of that; it's supposed to be, in universe, a bit gross and unpleasant, yes, but there's a fine distinction between that, and genuinely making it unpleasant for the player. If the player is finding the experience to be unpleasant and off-putting, then it's detracting from the experience and the game, no matter how 'realistic' it might be intended to be. I personally do not care for it. I feel like it misses the mark very poorly.

I'm not trolling. I'm both a moral person and religious. Trust me. I'd you read my other posts, you'd know I'm not trolling.

I love games like this, but the life and crude are, in my opinion, not necessary to the overall game and just make it harder for people like me to enjoy them. I don't normally have the ability to petition a game I really like while it is being created, otherwise I'd be doing this very same thing for other games.

Fantasy is my favorite genre. I'm a long-term D&D fan with over 25 years of experience as a DM, but I'm a clean DM. I don't do sex or excessive vulgarity in my sessions. We play for the story and the interaction and such. We play Star Wars style (original movies). Serious and exciting, adventurous and fun.

And more and more video games are moving away from that to sex and vulgarity. It saddens me because video game D&D is the only way I get to be a player instead of the story teller and referee.

Did Neverwinter Nights need this stuff? It had some, but limited. Nothing substantial. Same with it's sequel. Same with BG1 and 2 and Icewind Dale. I love those games, and it saddens me greatly that this game has to have such illicit sex scenes and now the unnecessary, and repetitive vulgarity in Grymforge where they repeat the same lines over and over again.

If I at least had a way to turn it off...

Oh, and I was kidding about not being mature enough. I just said that because some people think sex and vulgarity are a maturity thing as opposed to simply being a moral or preference thing. I'm a married man very much in love with my wife. I don't need pixel porn in my life... Or any type for that matter.

My parents were nudists, and I saw plenty of naked bodies growing up. It actually doesn't phase me in that regard. If anything, I'm desensitized to it. I just find it totally disgusting watching anyone having sex, and pixel representations of people having sex is even more unpleasant. Anytime it starts, I try to hastily skip. Sex is very private and personal, in my opinion, and I'd love it if more people kept it that way.

Kudos to you for being the type of person you are. The thing is that those things you personally don't like, is what sells the most. As the example I gave you previously with the game Grand Theft Auto V. One of the biggest money makers in games, has a lot of sex, nudity and vulgarity. It's saturated with it. It even has gambling. This is unfortunately what makes money and in business standards, it's good for business. The other thing is that these types of content actually has a big fan base. People like this stuff, even if you don't like it. Companies are going to side with the bigger fan base. The shareholders are going to see that all these sinful content makes money and they are going to chose to keep it. Like Rockstar the makers of Grand Theft Auto who will literally tell parent about their kids seeing nudity in GTAV, "Not my problem, you're the parent." They act like that why? Because the majority of the fan base likes it. You can ask for parental discretion but because BG3 has an ESRB of M, they are legally protected by that and are not required to make any changes.

Yes. I know. But it doesn't hurt to ask.

"Ask and ye shall receive. Knock, and the door will open."

I ask with the small hope that they'll listen. Maybe it'll be a small thing for them to do, and maybe, just maybe, they'll squeak it in.

And who knows, if they advertised that they did it, maybe, just maybe, they could squeak out a few more sales because though I'm in the minority, as many believe, people like me still exist.

Besides, some parents might just let their teenagers and kids play it if they knew they could lock out the junk.

And streamers too.

For me, this would be a day hanging out with the people I worked with back in the day, or most of this Sunday, where I'll be riding in a Toy Run, with a bunch of other bikers. I was born a Navy Brat. I've been in the military, and I've worked as a bouncer at strip clubs. I worked construction for years. My niece posted a meme where it was commenting on flipping a friend a bird, and I said "So you're just saying "mornin'", because good morning would have taken both hands". Yes, if it's not talking to my mom, or my younger niece on the phone, don't put me on speaker. So I don't find the language "off-putting", but more of a thing that, before I became largely confined to my house, 16 years ago, was part of my daily routine. My foreman once commented that his penis was short, but could touch the sides of a tuna can. I asked him if it really counts if it takes a half hour to do it.

I'm down for the fade to black suggestion, as I've repeatedly stated, I may even use it myself. I'm not all that fussed about getting sex scenes. Not because I find them offensive, or "off-putting", but because it just doesn't matter if they're there or not. With very few exceptions, I'm not gay, so I don't do gay romances, I've probably actually done most of it in real life. I tried to stop one of the strippers at the club from trying to remove the elastic off my underwear on stage during a birthday lap dance, because I was running Commando that day. It didn't work, but I tried. So it's definitely not that it bothers me in the slightest, just that I've been there, done that, and it's like billiards for me. It's fun and all, but I'd really rather play, than watch. Short of completely rewriting the game though, I'm not sure how they deal with language. One man's trash is another man's treasure, and all, and while the language isn't really a treasure for me, it's not something that I haven't heard, on a daily basis.

I'll live with it if they don't implement this, but it will ruin my experience a bit... Make it less fun for me.

That said, when I play the good path (did evil this time just to get to new content faster and to see what it was like; disappointed Minthara's not a companion yet) it probably won't be an issue. I'll likely kill all the duergar anyway. Then I won't hear their smut talk.

Now isn't that ironic? To not hear vulgarity I have to murder a bunch of people? Is this really the good path?

Lol

Mass murder, torture and enslavement are perfectly acceptable artistic paradigms but use naughty words, now that's just evil. Almost everything born on planet earth is a product of sex from plants to ...well you, so to be offended by its expression is somewhat paradoxical imo. What exactly is so offensive about human anatomy that it requires burring out? Genuine question. It isn't even a real person bare in mind, it is essentially the 21st century equivalent of a book. The graphical representation of a pen and paper game developed in 1974 intended to be a game of the imagination.

I am Christian I am not puritanical. Freedom of expression is the freedom to be offended as believe it or not to "take offence" is the expression from which this human right was derived. Having seen the horrors of war I gained a new respect for this freedom. When the realities of the world come knocking, naughty words and boobs aint gonna bother you.

I am uncomfortable with crude sexual vulgarity, not offended by it. I think it is probably best that there are filters for those with sensitive feelings but wouldn't this remove from the experience of an RPG? Just curious. If the genuinely evil Duergar spoken the queens English and paid their workers a fair wage with retirement benefits, paid holidays etc. then they would be the good guys right? Unless of course workers rights offends you ideologically for some reason? See what I did there? Everything is offensive to someone, nothing is offensive to everyone.

I do find it interesting that the Duergar and drow enslave, murder, sacrifice and torture deep Gnomes (or anyone else for that matter) by the thousand but the moral objection to their behavior is their vularity. I killed them because my imaginary character was significantly more evil than they were and figured meh why not. Then I ate them.

I don't like it either, mostly because every game I've played with digital nudity has done it in a way that's quite cheesy.

But the swearing is what makes some of these characters' personalities. It's not overboard either. Now if they'd stuck ME in a video game, it's be rated AO because of the sheer number of F bombs.

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The cursing/vulgarity thing might be a bit much considering that's quite a bit of filtering, but nudity you really could do just the black screen fade then still be able to pick your dialogue. I'd certainly be down to use it if it ends up there.

Some of the dialog is pretty racy too though so it's kinda a moot point.

Although I don't like racy dialogue, it is better than having visual raciness. Images flash before your eyes, and they remain in your brain. They're there in a flash, and then gone, but their memory remains much more vividly than a simple description.

That said, I don't like either, but if I had to pick one to filter, it'd be the visuals.

Same with audio. You hear something, the memory of it remains a lot longer than reading it on the screen. I could read a racy book full of raunchy, steamy stuff, and the memory of that would not stick with me as much as someone going at it on a movie screen. (Not that I prefer either. I'm speaking more from past experiences.)

How about this for audio? Give players the ability to turn off background conversations. That would certainly be a VERY much appreciated setting. The words could even still pop up on the screen as dialogue text that's floating above their heads, but let me turn off background convos.

This would also, then, save me from the redundant "I care about our lives, OUR FUTURES!" conversation in the grove between Rolan and his companions. They drive me nuts!

I'd rather they focus on getting the game out. The sex scenes are completely optional in the first place. No one is forcing a romance.

I'm tired of waiting and the more stuff they have to go back and tinker with, the longer its going to take.

Gotta love how its okay for a kid to see people getting burned alive by oil, cut in half by swords, electrified, eaten by monsters, gored by animals and all sorts of gratuitous violence but please do not let them see a nipple or two people engaging in consensual physical romance.