Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback WOW so Baldur's Gate has gone from fun GAMe to borderline cartoon porn?

Hm, fair point. There are different sorts of criticism though, I went with hate speech for the lack of a better word.

Wow, I see this topic does not let people go. I suppose Larian will include the black screen option 100% at this point, so don't worry my arrogant and full of self-importance friend - you will not need to see it. As for ''we actually are forced to PAY for this garbage'' - yes, sometimes there are things we do not fully love and we make compromises with other people with other tastes. I am sure this will be a good lesson for you.

To be honest, that’s my biggest problem with it

Though I do have other concerns, those are already outlined in the other thread where we’ve recently been discussing this sort of topic in (mostly) a more nuanced manner than the OP’s no doubt heartfelt rant on the topic.

https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=837899#Post837899

My point is that this is D&D and it is Baldur's Gate. Not Debby Does Baldur. At least it shouldn't be. I'm honestly surprised that nobody over at Hasbro has had any problem with this insult to the great games. That's what they are , GAMES, not porn. Like I said some games are centered around sex but D&D and Baldur's Gate definitely is not. It's an insult. Also as I stated I watch the whole thing because I wanted to see just how far they were going to go with it. And I'm NOT trying to hate on those of you that actually for some reason enjoy cartoon porn. That's YOUR problem and it shouldn''t be made mine. Yet here we are. FIVE years in the making, TWO of them Early Access, tons of bugs still AND borderline porn? I'm seriously losing interest in this game and I hate that idea. It's D&D. It's Baldur's Gate. It's SUPPOSED to be a fun GAME. But it's really not and I honestly don't have high hopes that it actually ever will be from the looks of things. It's been turned into a very bad joke.

Really? Again? A bit less hyperbole, more nuance and a recognition that your preference is just one amongst many would make for more constructive debate. And if you’re not interested in constructive debate then it’s not really fair of you to come here and just shout your opinions at us all.

As I’ve said elsewhere, I’m not a fan of extended explicit sex scenes for a couple of reasons, but they’re still a tiny, tiny part of the game as a whole and I’m sure will be skippable. Even if the Minthara scene went on twice as long (and my preference would be that it were far shorter) I don’t think it could reasonably be said to constitute centering the game around sex. And whether or not it’s actually shown on screen, making sex potentially part of our characters’ story seems perfectly valid. Loads of fantasy adventures in films, TV and books have plot elements that include romance and/or sex and for me it would be a huge gap if BG3 didn’t accommodate this.

"Really? Again? A bit less hyperbole, more nuance and a recognition that your preference is just one amongst many would make for more constructive debate. And if you’re not interested in constructive debate then it’s not really fair of you to come here and just shout your opinions at us all."

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say/point out? "Really? Again?" What "Again"? and what "if you're not interested in constructive debate"? I'm lost within your words. How am I not interested in constructive debate? If you wish to debate then do so. I have no problem with that. Not sure why you think I do. lol

Then why didn't you adress the constructive part of Red Queen's argument? Do I have to point out exactly what the argument was? Or can you manage to extract it? May be your "don't know what you are talking about" manner could work on a 10 year old, but man don't be funny

It was straight up poor decision that limited their audience and scared away conscientious parents.

Their are actually families that roll play adventures together.


An off button with a parental password would fix this...slightly

A familly playing BG3 together will have to witness a realistic brain being extracted from someone head in the first minute of gameplay, and it is barely hidden.

This game is rated "M" by ESBR
I think parents must understand what it means, right? Or do some research to find out? Hold some responsibility for their conscious decisions? oh well it is easier to find a scapegoat in some corporate image

People fuck ... get used to that, they arent going to stop.

"Then why didn't you adress the constructive part of Red Queen's argument? Do I have to point out exactly what the argument was? Or can you manage to extract it? May be your "don't know what you are talking about" manner could work on a 10 year old, but man don't be funny
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Apparently you do have to point it out. I dn't see it other than her complaining about me voicing MY opinion in the FEEDBACK section. That's what it is MY opinion. I'm not saying it's yours or anyone else's. It's MINE. This is the FEEDBACK section. I have given MY feedback on this topic. whether YOU or ANYONE else agrees with it or not it's still MY opinion. Please do explain. I am a bit conffused why I can't voice MY opinion in the FEEDBACK section? What exactly is YOUR definition of FEEDBACK? Apparently it's different than mine.

Yep...that's what parents should tell their younger children who like to play games.

I agree, that you don't have to elaborate on your own opinion. I did get, that is was your personal thought in the matter.

It seems, that people get riled up a lot about this topic, given, that there are now three threads covering it. And all because nudity was datamined....

...and their is also the adult crowd that just doesn't find it the least bit exciting (real life is better) and that would rather have characters that are immersive enough to actually care about.

addendum...an off switch would make me fell more comfortable to explore dialog options without the risk of things getting weird.

Children should not play this game. It is rated M not only because of the sexual content but also because of gore and strong language. They can agree or disagree with this restriction. And every game should not be done for everyone.

Thats also an opinion ...

Mine would be: You are too young for this one. It clearly states 18+

It's not the nudity that's the problem. It's the sexual acts. And I did not see the other topics regarding this or I would have simply added my 2 cents in with those instead of starting my own. My appologies for not reading the entire section of posts. That's on ME.

The “again” referred to you doing in this thread what I’d just seen and commented on you doing in another thread, which is generally panning Larian and the game. I get you’re disappointed, but you really don’t need to keep saying it over and over in different threads.

I’m glad you’re happy to have constructive debate, however. You’ll see that what I said was conditional. If you weren’t bothered about having such debate, but just wanted to vent, your tone and approach would have been appropriate though not pleasant for fellow forum members. Given, however, that you are interested in such debate then the first part of what I recommended applies. I don’t think I’m the only person here who finds the rhetorical style of your posts in this thread not conducive to constructive engagement.

And as neprostoman pointed out I did actually make some specific points about your argument that you could have responded to in a way that proved you were willing to discuss in good faith. Though as I’d just dissed your debating style, I certainly don’t blame you for focusing on that instead!


Well, I’m sure there is a demand for a family-friendly D&D game, but Larian have always been very clear that they wanted to make a mature game. While I don’t think “containing explicit sex” is either necessary or sufficient for a “mature” game, speaking for myself do want the latter and while I’d probably play BG3 even if it were kid-friendly I’m glad Larian are intending something that addresses themes and includes graphics (eg mindflayer transformations) that are not suitable for children. Whether the net impact on sales of this decision is positive or negative, I couldn’t say. But by making the game 18+, Larian have given themselves at least the opportunity to make what I personally would consider a more interesting, dark fantasy than would otherwise be possible.

Surely, I'll do that.

1. You said that the game is CENTRED around porn and nudity. The Red Queen obviously pointed out that it isn't, because it is just one scene. Even if there were 10 scenes like that, your exaggerated, clearly emotional statement won't be true. You have as much right to state your opinion as much everyone else has to point out the holes in your opinion and make it look stupid for what it is.

2. The Red Queen made a correlation with books and media. Do you have to say something on the matter? How is a sex scene in a setting based on the exaggerated real life (all fantasy is that) inappropriate? A lot of books have that, a lot of the time a romantic/sexual aspect kicks in later in the story or even in sequels. Take Witcher books for example. Take game of thrones. Take DnD campaigns even. Those are all FUN but have sex.

You loved what you were served in your youth. Now you act like the world is obligated to serve you all the same. Are you some authority or something?