Larian Studios Forums Baldur's Gate III Baldur's Gate III - Suggestions & Feedback WOW so Baldur's Gate has gone from fun GAMe to borderline cartoon porn?

If I have to cite the Random Harlot Table one more time... I can't even post images of some of the stuff you can find in the AD&D manuals because it's NSFW and would likely violate community guidelines. Just because current D&D published material doesn't include more erotic material doesn't mean that has always been the case, nor does it mean that every table is all age appropriate. You can find tons of 18+ groups on Roll20 and other sites. Also did the thought occur to you that the current owners(WotC) might have sanitized some of the materials to make it more marketable? The current CEO also wants to find a way to get microtransactions into D&D like modern video games. More Marketable/All Ages ≠ Better

No pun intended, because of exposure. Mainstream entertainment tropes have been showing graphic violence for many decades more than graphic sex. Outside of streamed networks it has been against the rules/law to even show an erection on TV: going round an 1990s video store the violent movies would be on a top shelf, but porn would have its own sordid little corner. The two themes have been treated by (dominantly Western) society on entirely different levels for almost the entirety of their existence, and anything new takes time to become tolerated.

They are actually being very reasonable in stating the difference between what they would like and what they understand is probably going to happen, and asking politely if there can be a way to avoid it. Lumping GM4Him in with the OP who states repeatedly that sex has no place at all in BG3 because it wasn't in BG1 & 2 (it was) or DnD (it is) is neither fair nor productive, and your tone of response was neither enlightened or respectful; and almost expressly designed to get another thread on the topic closed down.

If this was the first in a new series then I would 100% go with this argument. However there will by now be millions of people who grew up with the first two games who will be interested in the sequel to see how the setting and characters have moved on, but whose wants and attitudes have changed from when they were teenagers. Do I think the content of the game should be changed to pander to these people? Absolutely not. Do I think it's worth opening up the game's market to them (and other new players with similar views) by designing the game to modify these scenarios? Absolutely.

For example, have these scenes have a symbol in the dialogue trigger that denotes a sexual content outcome; then have a setting in Options that prevents these dialogue options from appearing. That way adults can self-censor by choosing not to pick them, and can prevent the possibility of triggering them when they are playing with or around people they would rather not expose them to at all. The technology to filter dialogue already exists in the form of Racial and Class tags, and it is already possible to do it dynamically because you can trigger them using Disguise Self to become, for example, a Drow.

That romance wouldent contribute ?... Errr have you played the BG games at all ?... All BG games has since its dawn had Romance mechancis part of the game, as everything else get grafical, so does the Romance mechanic... In BG dident one of the comapnions have a Baby ?... alot of content, is created around the companions for us to enjoy...

Someone at Larian spent alot of time puzzling together all those romance quest lines, and how it also can indirectly and directly entwine with the main story...

The problem with this, is as i tried to explain, the Romance paths is a long line of choises, while one scene is easy to "blank" everything of a choise we make is a pre recorded choises that get spin off effects... and some of these scenes even have aproval up or down depending on our choises... and will be talked of later in follow up responces... and my worry is that when your compromise content and create alterative versions, not only does it take Larian alot of production time to re record alot of alternative scenes and voices, but also you risk that, like cyberpunk, the game eventually deviates from its goal and becomes more or less nothing, since it tried to apease everyone...

Romance paths have been part of all BG games, and like combat, violence, everything gets more grafical...

Or the many many boob armours, or armours that is a armour for a male, and suddenly become a chain mail bikini for a female... its jut those nerdy things that been part of the genere as far back as gary gygax...

I don't really care since I never take up the romance "quests". However, I do agree with the OP that this has no place in the Baldur's Gate franchise. It is really counter to the brand and ethos of the originals, and completely unnecessary. Who is it meant to be for? Is anyone titillated by this, or finds it anything but awkward and cringeworthy? Do us all a favor and get rid of it.

Your of course entiled to your opinion, but the BG games are what they are, thanks to them being written and developed as open minded and free spirited as they been... and as i said earlier, everything gets more grafical, simply couse the tech gets better, and so will everything tied to Romance quest lines, wich been part of BG since the dawn and been part of making BG the cult game it is...

When i see Sven nerd away about BG, i smile and laugh... do you honestly think he will compromise how he have or will make his BG games, they are what they are thanks to its legacy, all included...

I have seen this chart earlier in the thread, but I must admit, I am not sure what it proves, but it might be my lack of experience with the table-top speaking. I never questioned harlot's existance in D&D, BG1&2 had them. I will trust you on the images, though.


You are again conflating romances with explicit sex scenes. Stop that. The quoted above is just pure nonesense. First of all I would like you to introduce you to a small IP called Fallout. Original game was made around the same time as Baldur's Gate, were also isometric and released by the same publisher, but is a 18+ rated games. Bioware's choice to make BG games playable by teens was intentional - it is a simple hero story almost every one can enjoy. Even the silly gib animation was a toggle (which I tend to keep off, funnily enough to make the game more immersive). Also by your logic, few games would be rated below 18 if tech advancements were responsible for game's rating.


I don't think the quote really captures the heart of the matter, as it seems to refer to the existance of a violent act in the narrative, but not its depiction. How something is depicted has an impact on meaning - it can change the scene from comedic slapstic to horror, it can make something seem repuslive or desirable. I mentioned Watchman, so I will continue using it as example. The comic has sex and violence and uses it to show how unheroic it's characters are. None of it's mature content is indulged in, as it is not meant to be entertaning. Watchman film, however, does the opposite being a very gory film, and glorifying its violence and sex. It's message is completely opposite to the source material. The comic is a deconstruction of a superhero story. The film, is just an R rated superhero story - in other words, it is just an unpleasant to watch usual superhero story and would loose nothing by not being R rated.

Most stuff is allowed here provided it has some genuinely valid context and isn't simply gratuitous; as ever, common sense is a useful guide.

Going back to some posts the previous page, what isn't allowed includes insults and so on, so a reminder to knock it off, please. Talking of age-appropriate, I'm sure we're all grown-up enough to be above that sort of thing. If it continues, some people may have an enforced holiday.

No im not... a person want to make a change and expressed his displeasure of that things get more grafical... and yes they are getting and are portrayed more grafical... but that is done across the board, EVERYTHING is more grafical... so as stated and as the complained been, their upset couse certain scenes related to romance is grafical... yes of course their grafical, that is again couse the advancement of the tech... chopping people with a sword is significantly more grafical in how it shows violence...

So again what was once pixely combat is now more grafical... what was once pixely romance, is now more grafical... and most of all its not REAL, its part of a fantasy setting for adults... if people acctually treated it as such and stopped trying to make it real, it be less of a deal... pixels i still pixels, grafical or not... and that goes back to what i stated earlier...

this is the core of the problem... -"the problem isnt that it is grafical fantasy in all its forms, the problem is some not being able to handle it as fantasy !"

If you are cringing to human body then your parents raised you very poorly. BG always had sex and romance quests. Look like you have no knowledge of the franchise and it is you who do not belong to the franchise. Bye-bye. Something tells me that you'll be playing it in any case because such opinions are usually expressed by hypocrites because you need to actively choose to have these sexual options to have them.

A mod literally just said to knock off the insults and the very next post, you insult a user, just because they have a different opinion than you.

This would actually be an interesting topic if it were less toxic.

Guys, we can have difrent opinions and thats fine... but lets not get personal... debate, argue, but keep it civil... and this just enforces my and what the MOD said, when people try to bring realism, politics and religion into fantasy games, shit happens... let fantasy be fantasy... and i cant state this enough -"the problem isnt that it is fantasy in all its forms, the problem is some not being able to handle it as such !"

I'm fine with different opinions as long as they do not promote restriction and censorship.

Don't tell me that, let's say, having a racist opinion is fine because it's just an opinion.

It's a bit different, if a person asks for the option (read: the option) to turn on fade to black. Comparing that to racism is just ... weird?
Option means, you still can enjoy your full nudity and hardcore sex , so I don't see the harm.
Plus streamers will probably be thankful for that option.

Can you point me to the scene in BG1 or 2 where saw a blow job please? I seriously can’t believe anyone would draw a comparison between the romance or presence of sex in previous BG games to what will apparently be in BG3. There is a difference between alluding to something as opposed to visually depicting it.

And its still not real, its pixels, grafially more advanced pixels, but still pixels, and EVERYTHING is more grafical since BG1 and BG2... when you see a blowjob, then my question to you is, do you think you see a actual blowjob ?, my counter question be when you see someone chop of someones head in a video game, do you think thats real ?... and this is the core of the problem, as these games evolve everything gets more grafical... but that still doesnt make anything of it more real, its still fantasy, and we can run around murder people, torture people, see penises, and other nude things, and its all grafical, couse the tech has adanvaced, but the mere fact we can run around doing all these things, is couse its a fantasy, we are allowed to chads, or whenshes, or what ever we want... no one is going to treat what happens in the game as something real... couse it isnt, so stop trying to treat it as such...

And as for your question, show me in BG1 and BG2 grafical violence as in BG3 ?, i can asure you that if you add together the grafical violence has increased exponentially more then the few grafical romance scenes... everything is more grafical... and its still NOT real

Again --------> -"the problem isnt that it is fantasy in all its forms, the problem is some not being able to handle it as such !"

Everyone knows the game isn't real, so you can stop with your assumption that I think of it as real. Frankly, I have no idea why you drew that conclusion.

Bowing out respectfully, I really have no desire to listen to discuss this anymore.