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Originally Posted by Ehhhh123
Yeah that's still a bummer now that I thought about it more. However, you can still get a happily ever after together if Dark Justiciar Shadowheart saves her parents, it seems. Just won't be as happy as it could have been. Here's the youtube video:

Yup, it's a very slightly tweaked version of the same dialogue as you get with the Selune path. It really seems to have been written for the Dark Justiciar version, which is why it makes little sense for her Selune path, because there you've already confirmed twice before that you'll join her.

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If there is choice Nightsong or Halsin, I'd kill Halsin every freaking time. Also I love her look with silver hair(I've heard somewhere though that she is supposed to be silver-haired instantly after the shadowfell, because Shar have tortured her till her hair turned white).

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Originally Posted by Netav
If there is choice Nightsong or Halsin, I'd kill Halsin every freaking time. Also I love her look with silver hair(I've heard somewhere though that she is supposed to be silver-haired instantly after the shadowfell, because Shar tortured her till her hair turn white).
I thought it might be related to her turning into a Cleric of Selune, because the game says she's now empowered by Selune (in the dialogue after the Nightsong), but that's certainly possible. She went through a lot while leaving the Shadowfell, Shar did not hold punches based on how she explains it. The pain that poor girl suffered just to be with Tav (and to rid herself of Shar's influence, of course).

All the more reason to believe the inconsistent interactions should be removed/changed, I'd say!

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Yeah, hopefully more people notice so that there can be a change taking place. Come on 50k people, where you at?

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Originally Posted by Ehhhh123
Yeah, hopefully more people notice so that there can be a change taking place. Come on 50k people, where you at?
It's been said before but I have no faith in anything being changed because this is not an issue to the overwhelming majority of players. Once again the discussion was brought up in their Discord and once again met with nothing but personal insults and belittlement for daring to have an opinion opposite of theirs. And this is what happens every time it's discussed on Reddit or Discord yet people here can manage to be civilized. Like the argument with KillerRabbit that went on for 5 pages sure a lot of people repeating themselves but nobody was insulting each other.
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Originally Posted by Bigli
Originally Posted by Ehhhh123
Yeah, hopefully more people notice so that there can be a change taking place. Come on 50k people, where you at?
It's been said before but I have no faith in anything being changed because this is not an issue to the overwhelming majority of players. Once again the discussion was brought up in their Discord and once again met with nothing but personal insults and belittlement for daring to have an opinion opposite of theirs.
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Because it makes sense? Pretty much all sides agree that Halsin/SH banter and drow shit are problems. I cant take discord seriously when ppl write shit like:
"I can have a wolf in me"(with their Tav screenshot from Halsin scene), or "why druid have no option to turn into owlbear during Halsin's scene"
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Feedback in discord, on Larian's site and this topic are better indications.

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Damn, that's worse than what I got. Although I will say that people on the feedback threads keep bringing this issue up multiple times day from what I've seen, and their votes outnumber the people pushing back against fixing it. But eh, if they don't fix it, this is probably gonna be the last time I buy anything from Larian.

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We'll see. To me it looks like a group of ~5 people who post *very* frequently so the length of the thread is no indication of the popularity. Lots of people are upset about Halsin - I don't have much of opinion since I never have space for him the in party anyway. Jaheria is fantastic character and I don't need two druids in a 4 person party.

I'm glad that Netav and have come to some points of agreement but I don't see widespread upset about the foursome with the twins. Most people on reddit seem to think it's funny. I'm not a fan of the subreddit but assure you people over there are NOT upset the the horny scenes in the game.

If Tav wants an cinnamon bun romance that ends with a farmstead why are they hiring sex workers? Just ignore them. Just I ignore the fact that SH can become a Sharran who revels in the murder of Dame Alyin.

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Originally Posted by KillerRabbit
We'll see. To me it looks like a group of ~5 people who post *very* frequently so the length of the thread is no indication of the popularity. Lots of people are upset about Halsin - I don't have much of opinion since I never have space for him the in party anyway. Jaheria is fantastic character and I don't need two druids in a 4 person party.

I'm glad that Netav and have come to some points of agreement but I don't see widespread upset about the foursome with the twins. Most people on reddit seem to think it's funny. I'm not a fan of the subreddit but assure you people over there are NOT upset the the horny scenes in the game.

If Tav wants an cinnamon bun romance that ends with a farmstead why are they hiring sex workers? Just ignore them. Just I ignore the fact that SH can become a Sharran who revels in the murder of Dame Alyin.
More of Halsin problem in drows-twin scene. Scene itself is alright I guess.

Also not comments, but views obviously speak.

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Yes I do think lots of people are upset with Halsin. I think that might get changed. Again, don't really have an opinion since I never travel or talk to Halsin.

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Originally Posted by KillerRabbit
We'll see. To me it looks like a group of ~5 people who post *very* frequently so the length of the thread is no indication of the popularity. Lots of people are upset about Halsin - I don't have much of opinion since I never have space for him the in party anyway. Jaheria is fantastic character and I don't need two druids in a 4 person party.

I'm glad that Netav and have come to some points of agreement but I don't see widespread upset about the foursome with the twins. Most people on reddit seem to think it's funny. I'm not a fan of the subreddit but assure you people over there are NOT upset the the horny scenes in the game.

If Tav wants an cinnamon bun romance that ends with a farmstead why are they hiring sex workers? Just ignore them. Just I ignore the fact that SH can become a Sharran who revels in the murder of Dame Alyin.

Its not the 4some by itself that people have a problem with, tho I can only speak on why its a problem as a Halsin fan. Im not gonna go into it as it may not be appropriate for this thread but its not the scene in and of itself that we take issue with.

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Only about 48% of players have left act 1 and only about a 1/3 have left act 2, according to steam. So most people haven't even reached act 3 at all and have no idea about any of this, unless they look at spoilers anyway.

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Imagine someone goes up to them and is like: "Are you planning to play as monogamous and have Shadowheart as your character's love interest? Boy do I have something to show you!"

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Yeah lol I feel like most ppl are going to want monogamy, so it's likely they aren't going to react well, especially when they actually experience it firsthand.

And while a handful of us do post regularly, there have been many who have come and went. Even the original creator of the thread sometimes pops back in and leaves for a while.

I had one of the highest upvoted feedback posts on discord recently, so ppl do care, even if they don't spend their time on this forum.

But then I also wouldn't be surprised if ppl like that this is part porn game, as many are quite shallow. The funny thing is that it isn't even good porn too, it's just fade to black lmao

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Originally Posted by KillerRabbit
I'm glad that Netav and have come to some points of agreement but I don't see widespread upset about the foursome with the twins. Most people on reddit seem to think it's funny. I'm not a fan of the subreddit but assure you people over there are NOT upset the the horny scenes in the game.
I've seen Reddit on both sides of the fence.

Speaking of Netav, I wonder if they changed their stance regarding Halsin being - at best - a fling without explanation of why only he is a fling and not the rest of the cast? Because that's about the only Halsin-related thing the two of you seemed to agree on, and they haven't gotten to reply with their thoughts on the following, but it's been buried a few pages back now:
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This is mainly for Netav. I'm afraid that while you prefer to read Halsin as a fling, the game doesn't seem to agree. I completely forgot about this previously when talking about it but don't forget that Halsin will actually be considered a romance partner after your sex scene together and you can continue kissing him all the way until the end. You can also break up with him. He becomes no different than any other romance, so there is no fling, it's actual romance. If that wasn't enough, the writers themselves called him poly, so the assumption of him being a fling because nothing else except "this is an inconsistency" would explain why she would accept him and not the others is unfortunately false until they change their stance, change the dialogue, and make it an actual fling (remove the romance trigger after your sex scene together, so you don't get romance specific dialogue with him).

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If Tav wants an cinnamon bun romance that ends with a farmstead why are they hiring sex workers? Just ignore them. Just I ignore the fact that SH can become a Sharran who revels in the murder of Dame Alyin.
So long as the inconsistency exists, I will have a problem with it. I do not intend to actually engage with it, though, I just dislike inconsistencies. It's a pet peeve if you will.

Though as others have said, the Halsin part is an unavoidable problem in some cases and does need to be removed.

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Because it's inconsistency or my "headcanon" fling(Him freaking out from the word "relationship" kinda supports that, not to mention inconsistency around other companions, as SH won't agree for Tav to be with anyone else, she cuts it instantly, without any elaboration). Thats why I think this way.
Rabbit headcanon is wine dialogue hinting at "poly in the future maybe" and her wanting "nesting partner" first(thats why in his headcanon she refuses poly as she sees 5 origins to threaten her relationship with Tav). I disagree, because to me its obvious that she just wants you alone for that bottle and first date. It doesn't end up in sex aswell. So is her poly proposal denials, there is nothing that indicates her wanting "nesting partner", if you propose Gale to her as poly partner, there is "why let monogamy get in our way" line - she refuses again. Wyll response, etc. I don't overthink it. He just reads this way with his headcanon and its consistent in all 3 acts.
My headcanon lets story by sorta consistent(I know that you disagree) and let her relationship with Tav be "open mogonamy" more or less.
We agreed to disagree, everyone has right to read situation how they want basically.

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Well i actually never Bring Halsin to act 3 becouse i never need of him i actually wish they add a option for me to save the Grove and the Shadowcurse and REFUSE him to came to act 3..
No dude yu wanted to save the Kid !? now stay with him.
in my games i always left him on act 2 becouse i never went to speak with him again after the party (becouse i actually hate him.)
or i always treat him the worst way i can so he can never like me..huahauhauha

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Originally Posted by Michieltjuhh
I've seen Reddit on both sides of the fence.


Where? 1600 upvotes in favor of the Shadowheart enjoying the orgy and the beating of Tav by in the goblin temple:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGat...dowhearts_approving_my_orgy_with_halsin/

top comment in thread 1.6K upvotes:

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"She approves and gets inspired if you let the priest beat you and you get the blessing, too. She knows what she likes."

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I feel like it doesn’t match her personality to not care when you bang mizora for example, she seems to be against poly relationships so why does she just say whatevs? Idk but it feels like a lapse in judgement in her characters writing.


Again, I don't like the subreddit and don't think it's truly representative of the opinions of BG3 fans because the mods delete critical threads. But we are JUST talking about the mood on the subreddit about 1600 redditors found that scene funny and I've not seen a "what's up with SH and poly" thread take off.


Perhaps you've seen a thread I haven't but reactions over there confirm the opinion I come to here:

"SH is really mono" / "SH should be mono only" is the opinion of highly engaged, vocal minority.

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How do you not bring him to act 3? Do you just kill him? Because there's no dialogue to refuse him joining, and if you just leave the convo as he proposes to join, he just shows up at my camp anyway.

Their half assed attempt with him in act 3 just seems like a waste of time and money too. And in act 2 they could have had Jaheira do the shadow curse quest. Like when you really think about it, they could remove Halsin from the game entirely and it wouldn't make much difference. Sorry to Halsin fans maybe reading this, but it's kinda true, he's pretty irrelevant tbh.


This subreddit has over 7000k upvotes. A lot of ppl don't care to have Halsin as a companion lol
https://reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/s/WyoQ0exyRN

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Oh he's in camp. So is Mizorra. But they both just sit there. I never talk to them and I don't take them with me. Jaheria joins me at the end of chapter 2 and don't need another druid.

Sometime I take a swing at Mizorra to make Lae'zel and Wyll happy.

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