I get tired of hearing complaining with no attempt at solution and recovery.
So, having bought a game in good faith I should be the one to fix it when it doesn't work? Don't make me laugh!
Sure, mistakes get made, but, (in the cannibalised & updated words of Oscar Wilde) - to have one buggy software release could be described as misfortune, to have two can only be described as carelessness.
I also don't agree with the ridiculous assertion (made earlier in the thread) that the user base is somehow at fault for demanding that things get put right quickly, thereby leading to a rushed & untested fix - either the developers are competent and conscientious or they aren't. If they are, and the buggy first release was simply "misfortune," any fix would be properly tested before release, regardless of how long it took; after all, their reputation (and the trust and faith of their much-valued customers) would be on the line and a second failure would be highly embarrassing and potentially finacially ruinous. Events on <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> tend to support the view that some people at Larian are either incompetent and/or negligent or simply don't care enough about the users to make sure that they don't ruin the game for them. To be really cynical for a moment (surely not!) why should they try too hard when they've already got your money?
You (and many others here) just don't get it - you're still harping on about how everything is buggy on release & we should just accept it / live with it and let the developers sort it out. No, we shouldn't. We could and should lodge our complaints, rage, rant, moan and gripe and (where necessary) withdraw our patronage from those companies that treat us so badly until they improve their processes or go bust. The alternative simply perpetuates the current situation where many products (this one, Sacred and Temple of Elemental Evil to name just a few of the more recent ones) are released in unfinished / untested / buggy states and we have to suffer whilst the angelic, blameless, conscientious developers altruistically sort things out for us (or not, as the case may be). To claim that we should be helping them fix their mess instead of "complaining" is only really valid if you're talking about a beta release, not an allegedly finished product - these problems shouldn't arise post-beta as everything SHOULD have been tested. What you're really saying is that it's OK for developers to release a product that's not been properly tested, let the users find the bugs, THEN make the game work. Sure, I'll go for that, as long as I get the game for free AND I KNOW IN ADVANCE that it's not in a finished state.
It's also not true to say that all games are this buggy - I wonder why the Bioware forum doesn't have as many customers complaining about bugs? Could it be that they're actually testing & developing their products properly before release, because they'd rather not alienate their hard-won customer base?
As a consumer, I'll always exercise my right to complain as loudly as possible - it's an unfortunate truism that the louder you shout, the more likely it is that something will get done, and although it's too late in this case to get the game released in the state it should have been in, hopefully, next time, Larian will take a little more care over their software before release.
Of course, I don't expect you to agree - everyone has their own incompetence tolerance threshold, after all <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif" alt="" /> - but these sorts of problems will persist (from some companies) until we force them to do something about it.
I certainly won't be buying another Larian game until it's been on the shelves for a while and I've checked out all the gripes on the forum to find out how buggy it is - they've lost the respect, trust and faith that led me to buy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beyond.gif" alt="" /> on release day and will need to work damn hard to win it back.
In the meantime, there are plenty of other companies out there who don't treat their customers with contempt by serving up beta-standard software disguised as finished product.
