LOL Not from where I come from. My first recollections of CRPG's include Phantasy, Bard's Tale (there's a remake in the works folks), and Ultima. I suppose there where Rogue-like games ahead of those mind you (or maybe text-based games), maybe on the PET or some such. However, I see you point regardless.

The Phantasy games! Great stuff. Haven't heard anybody mention them in years. Ultima I got me involved in gaming away from a mainframe. Fascinating times, those, before it became a straight-jacketed industry.