Originally Posted by Bonerbill
Originally Posted by theBlackDragon
Originally Posted by Bonerbill
Originally Posted by pauljonas

If you want to play with a controller (2nd rate form of controlling games) play PS3 and Xbox games.

I really hate elitist staments like this from my fellow PC gamers. Are some of you people aware that most more PC games have Xbox 360 controller support? Are you people aware that Valve released a whole entire mode on steam with controllers in mind (steam big picture). If it's not some form of strategy game or PC exclusive RPG, then your average PC game has controller support.

I'm fine with this game having only keyboard and mouse support, but don't assume controllers are a console only thing.

Blame the greedy publishers that have decided that every single game should be playable on consoles (and as such, have controller support as most people don't attach a kb+mouse to their consoles) and in the process have ruined a *lot* of possibly good games and made next-to-extinct quite a few (sub)genres that rely very heavily on the mouse (like IE-styple cRPGs, C&C-style RTS, point & click adventures,...)

The fact that lots of games are ruined by forcing controller support on them makes a lot of us kb+mouse PC-gamers very trigger happy whenever the topic comes up.

Honestly, this is really a subjective opinion. Most games that I've played today seems to have decent kb+m and controller support. In fact, some of these games controls better with a mouse and keyboard. Sometimes a developer(like Bethesda) gets lazy and makes a console style UI for their games, but it's really rare.

Really? I can name more games where it's done poorly (poorly ranging from "slightly annoying" to "near unplayable") than I can where it's done properly. Games where it's done badly (all *big* titles): Skyrim (as you already mentioned), The Witcher 2, Mass Effect 2 & 3 (very obvious after playing ME1). And pretty much every game designed for a console specifically (like Darksiders). Notable exceptions: Dead Space series (well, 1 & 2 at least, haven't played 3)

Strategy games (RTS, TBS, etc) and computer style RPGs are usually mouse and keyboard only and PC exclusive, so they don't even have controller support or this so called "console taint" to "ruin" them.

Which wasn't my point, at all. I said the extreme focus of major publishers on games that are portable between platforms to the exclusion of pretty much all else has lead to a near death experience of the aforementioned genres (thankfully we're seeing a revival thanks to crowdsourcing).

Either way, I'm not interested in writing out my reasoning every time this topic comes up, so I'll leave it at this.

Last edited by theBlackDragon; 30/07/13 01:58 PM.

* as usual this is imho (unless stated otherwise); feel free to disagree, ignore or try to change my mind. Agreeing with me is ofc also allowed, but makes for much worse flamewarsarguments.

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