Uh-Oh, now you've done it! I checked out the links for Sacred and Spellforce, now I want them too, LOL. Guess I'd better start saving. Kathy, thanks for the info about Summoner. I've never played the game before, but because you like it so much, I'll give it a try. As it's been out for a while I should be able to get a copy of it fairly cheaply ( I hope!). Thanks again everybody, this has given me some good ideas for my next game purchase.