Originally Posted by Hawke
Originally Posted by kanisatha
Originally Posted by Hawke
Deadfire's complete financial failure has probably killed RTWP for good. I expect even Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous will offer turn-based gameplay + their beloved RTWP.

Show me one shred of evidence PoE2 sold poorly because it was RTwP.

Oh, and a recent interview with WotR director confirms RTwP will be the (only) combat system for the game. Thank God there's at least one studio out there that knows how to make good cRPGs.

Even Obsidian added Turn based later on. And I do not need to prove that it's what the whole industry thinks, DOS 2 outsold literally every other CRPG made in years.
Pathfinder was a new IP and I fear that Wrath of the Chosen won't be as popular because even POE1 was a huge hit then. I am really excited about WOTR and I personally enjoy RTWP but the majority thinks it's too complicated.
Owlcat Games is a small Russian studio they can make their games so cheaply that it can survive with sales in the lowe 100ks, Larian with their 200-300 devs simply can't.

Adding TB did not help PoE2 sales much at all. PoE2's sales woes had very little if anything to do with RTwP and rather with a whole slew of other factors including not having co-op and not being on consoles and being pirate-themed. In the industry, big AAA games are still very much RT or RTwP. D:OS2 sold somewhere between 1.5 and 2 M copies. Relative to other niche games like PoE, that's high. Relative to mainstream RPGs like DA:I, Skyrim and Witcher 3, that is paltry. So being the highest selling game among a bunch of low-selling niche games is not a meaningful achievement at all.

TB is just a fad at present for a small segment of gamers who can't handle anything complex and want everything to be easy and dumbed-down (even while giving them the false perception that they are playing a challenging game). If those people are the extent of your audience, sure, go TB and cap your sales at 2 M. Meanwhile, Witcher 3 has crossed over 35 M units sold and recently set a record for a 4 year old game by having 100,000 people playing it on Steam alone. So RTwP fans like me will go play awesome games like Witcher 3 and ignore silly TB games like BG3. Plus, we still have the REAL Baldur's Gate games available to play too. Why bother playing a fake BG game?