Originally Posted by Argonaut
Originally Posted by override367
Originally Posted by Argonaut
Originally Posted by override367

I'm glad they're keeping to the current lore, Mystra is super active in the world, and if you are going to cause a magical cataclysm, expect a visit from her, Elminster, or Storm

Forgotten Realms wiki article for Mystra including bibliography

1 - "Toward the end of her reign as the keeper of the Weave, she had grown tired and bitter, fed up with the schemes, maneuverings, and blatant attacks that her preeminent position attracted from every power-hungry being, sycophant, and fawning parasite, for century after century. Her pride in her status, and the kindness and respect she received from those that aided or worshiped her for other than magical gain, kept her hopes alive."

2 - "As the centuries passed, Mystra had grown tired of the ceaseless grasping for power through pleading, flattery, or treachery. She and her portfolio were the target of gods and mortals alike and that took its toll on the Mother of All Magic."

Mystra was super active in the world. This is post time of troubles.

Just for contrast, here is the wiki entry on Gale.

"Gale has one ambition: to become the greatest wizard Faerûn has ever known. Yet his thirst for magic led to disaster. A Netherese Destruction Orb beats in his chest, counting down to an explosion that can level a city. Gale is confident he'll overcome it, but time is not on his side."

Totally 'accurate' Mystra and FR Lore here yep no discrepancies.

Please click the source on that Wiki, and ask yourself what timeline a book written in 1989 would take place in.

You are talking about Mystra, the goddess of magic after Mystral, and keeper of the weave for many centuries.

I'm talking about Mystra, the new goddess of magic who arose at the same time the most high of Netheril was put down by Elminster and the Srinshee over Myth Drannor

Mystra is only ~14 years old at the time of baldur's gate 3! Citation: "The Herald", Ed Greenwood, 2014, about the Second Sundering, the reestablishment of the weave, and the birth of Mystra

I am aware, here, from the same Wiki.

"In the Year of the Ageless One, 1479 DR, while recuperating in a cabin in the King's Forest, Elminster felt Mystra's presence calling to him. He found her much diminished, possessing the body of a bear that had guarded a cache of items Mystra's still-mortal form had collected. She asked her most trusted servant to find new candidates to become Chosen and to recruit Cormyr's War Wizards.[20]"

Anything not altered means there is no opposing evidence to contradict it in new materials. Mystra herself is not looking for new Chosen, the current Chosen are the ones doing that. Did you forget about the other consequences of the time of troubles such as Ao directly commanding all gods that they cannot directly interfere with the mortal world in any way whatsoever? This is why gods now have champions. The only setting in which this rule does not apply is Eberron FYI.

Please try again, sources and citations.

in Death Masks she is directly, and personally, ordering Elminster. She seems to be rapidly regaining power with the fall of Shar's Shadoweave scheme

Given the completion of the new Host Tower of the Arcane at the hands of one of her chosen and the creation of a kind of Avengers of Wizards (A netherese lord, the most powerful drow wizard, a cloud giant, and one of her chosen, this happens in the last 3 R.A. Salvatore novels), and one of Mystra's Chosen literally running waterdeep at her command (again, death masks), it stands to reason that she is rapidly gaining power, because she visited Gale in person (citation: Baldur's Gate 3, Larian Studios)

I'm not arguing with you that her Chosen are her hands in Faerun, so the question is "why visit Gale personally?", my guess is that she wants to recruit him, since she's recruiting right now (Companions, Death Masks). Mystra doesn't personally solve anything for her Chosen, she merely commands them, but old Mystra visited potential chosen before they became chosen, and there's no textual evidence against new Mystra doing that.

Last edited by override367; 21/10/20 04:43 PM.