Originally Posted by Orbax

So, for people who can read and choose to do so in full, please reference my original posts and the point they were making that was its typically better to slowly introduce players into important situations to give them attempts to prepare, gather information, and attempt a few activities using skill checks prior to & instead of a single life or death roll that, even if you knew it was coming, there was nothing you could possibly due to really get a leg up on or influence the situation meaningfully. Learn from Robert's mistakes, read with the intent to understand.

Oh this is rich. There is no mistake, except maybe they should have had the other druid go ahead and lock her up if you pass the check. Yes, I can read plain text, and I even speak English, mostly fluently, which is a good thing, since I'm an native English speaker, well, American speaker, the language is definitely different from the Queen's English. The mistake is misleading people saying that someone has to prepare their players for a druid intending to kill a child, when that's not the scenario we're walking into. BTW, that dialog to the Drow? It isn't unique to a fail on that roll, you get the same one if you pass it, so what was she referring to then? It's simple, it really is, and there's no mistake being made by me here; I read the situation for what it was, pass and fail, and didn't feel like it was unfair. What would be unfair is making that roll meaningless, because the idea is that you're trying to convince her to not lock up a thief, there's nothing in the dialog about stopping her from killing a child.

So yes, there is a sound bit of advice in there: Make sure you know what the situation actually is before you go assigning motives on your own, and then presenting your assigned motives as facts. I realize that that idea runs counter to the modern age of "debate", but I'm not from the modern age, and prefer the old fashioned way of sticking to the facts as presented, instead of making up my own set of facts and then arguing in support of those.

Last edited by robertthebard; 29/10/20 08:57 PM. Reason: too many quotes...