Yeah the paid beta is out right now. All I'm saying, in my opinion, turn based combat in those franchises are not good. The dev's already confirmed that Wrath of the Righteous is a rtwp first and foremost. Which is fair. All encounters are with rtwp in mind only.
Your other examples seem good to me though. At least the ones I've played. The panel next week should reveal some info. Maybe Larian will talk about party intricacy.