But the point of this new thread which has now been merged wasn't to argue about 4 or 6. It was new mechanics for camp that might explain 4 party members better and provide more meaning for those left at camp and food and so forth. So it's frustrating that this has now become a continuation of the same old convos everyone has been having for months. Im not arguing party size here. Im offering nee suggestions for camp and party management and a story reason for party size.