Originally Posted by Ragitsu
Originally Posted by Sozz
It's true elves are shorter than humans, but the more Tolkien inspired high elves are of similar height.

Races of Faerûn has their official heights and weights. I believe this is 3e (as in not 3.5)

Human, man 4´10” +2d10 120 lb. × (2d4) lb.
Human, woman 4´ 5” +2d10 85 lb. × (2d4) lb.
Elf, drow, female 4'5" +2d6 80 lb. ×(1d6) lb.
Elf, drow, male 4'5" +2d6 85 lb. ×(1d6) lb.
Elf, moon or sun, female 4'5" +2d10 70 lb. ×(2d4) lb.
Elf, moon or sun, male 4'10" +2d10 90 lb. ×(2d4) lb.
Elf, wild or wood, female 4'5" +2d10 80 lb. ×(2d4) lb.
Elf, wild or wood, male 4'10" +2d10 100 lb. ×(2d4) lb.

And this is 5e

Human 4'8" +2d10 110 lb. × (2d4) lb.
Dwarf, hill 3'8" +2d4 115 lb. × (2d6) lb.
Dwarf, mountain 4' +2d4 130 lb. × (2d6) lb.
Elf, high 4'6" +2d10 90 lb. × (1d4) lb.
Elf, wood 4'6" +2d10 100 lb. × (1d4) lb.
Halfling 2'7" +2d4 35 lb. × 1 lb.

All gotten from the intranet

Same deal for AD&D 2e (the pencil-and-paper roleplaying system that forms the basis of most Infinity Engine games).

Table 10:
Average Height and Weight

Height in Inches [-] Weight in Pounds
Race Base* Modifier Base* Modifier

Dwarf 43/41 +1d10 [-] 130/105 +4d10
Elf 55/50 +1d10 [-] 90/70 +3d10
Gnome 38/36 +1d6 [-] 72/68 +5d4
Half-elf 60/58 +2d6 [-] 110/85 +3d12
Halfling 32/30 +2d8 [-] 52/48 +5d4
Human 60/59 +2d10 [-] 140/100 +6d10

*Females tend to be lighter and shorter than males. Thus, the base numbers for height and weight are divided into male/female values. Note that the modifier still allows for a broad range in each category.

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Originally Posted by Terminator2020
Humans are not taller then Elves that is crap I will not accept.

Take that up with TSR and Wizards of the Coast. Across all of Dungeons & Dragons, elves tend to be shorter than humans. Once again, you're equating Dungeons and Dragons to The Lord of the Rings when the latter source is just one of many inspirations for the former.
I have played many years Dungeons Dragons pen and paper and more then one edition of DnD not to mention computer games:
BG1 , BG2, Icewind Dale games that are AD (or second edition of Dnd).
Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2 DnD 3.0 and Dnd 3.5
Neverwinter MMO while Action combat is more or less adaption of DnD 4th edition.
Pathfinder (the first Pathfinder game that is fully released).
Solasta and BG3 Early Access that both are Dnd 5th edition.

I have had over 10 Gamemasters in Dungeons Dragons Pen and Paper sessions. None of them have told me in any Dnd session that humans are taller then Elves. You can think whatever you want and I do not care if you think Elves are clearly shorter then humans.

I do not generally read books nowadays. When I read Tolkien books it was indeed very long time ago and Hobbit book I read as I was a child. For me today I find movies and TV series more interesting then books.
The Lord of the Rings (Hobbit movies less good then LOTR movies) stand to this day to me as best inspiration of movies with Elves and not simple one inspiration among others.
While I find author R.A.Salvatore very good among DnD Forgotten Realms authors I still find Tolkien as number one fantasy author he kind of started it in a big way.

Last edited by Terminator2020; 08/08/21 01:35 AM.