Originally Posted by Ragitsu
I rebel against the notion that e-ver-y-thing - villains included - must be a subversion or else they are not considered "mature". It is possible to produce a well-written so-called "safe" villain and, conversely, it is possible to produce an amateurishly constructed "risky" villain.
Which I don't think anyone here asked for? It's not a one or the other situation, a writer can simply avoid using tropes (whether straight or subverting) altogether.